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Jethro June 30th 03 10:29 PM

Harddrive recovery
 
Hello everyone,

First of all, I don't know if I am in the right group here, someone
else pointed me in this direction.

I have a problem with one of my harddrives which I will try to explain
he
I have 2 harddrives in my pc 1 is the system harddrive on which my OS
(win2k) is installed. The second one is a harddrive for all my other
things, the size is 80Gb. That harddrive containt 4 partitions of
somewhere arround 20Gb each. This second harddrive is the problem.
Something went terribly wrong during a crash and now Windows says the
drive is 'unformatted'. The partitions are no longer viewable.
In the bios the size of the harddrive isn't correct. The actual size
is 80Gb but the bios says somewhere arround 31Gb.
With EasyRecovery Pro I managed to get a little more information which
have shown that, from the 31Gb, 1 partition (of 20Gb) is still intact
and I am able to recover all the data on that partition. The rest of
the space is 'unindentified'.
I also have a logfile of partition magic, you can view it he
http://www.xs4all.nl/~bjborsje/diskinfo.txt.
My feeling is that all the data is on the harddrive, but that somehow
the partition tables are messed up. I hope there is a way to make this
all work again.

I hope I'm not bothering anyone with this post, it just that I'm a
total dummie if it comes to this kind of complicated problems. I'm
just very worried that I might not be able to get to my other
partitions.

Markus July 1st 03 12:31 PM

as far as i can see from the logfile the total drive size seems to be the
main problem.
i think the first problem should either be the recognition of the drive in
bios (as 80GB) or to disable the drive in bios completely and try again
under xp/2000, as they use special drivers to access the hdd and do not need
bios recognition. you could also use ibm dft and see what it displays, you
dont need bios recognition there either. as far as i can see from the
logfile the total drive size seems to be the main problem.
"Jethro" wrote in message
m...
Hello everyone,

First of all, I don't know if I am in the right group here, someone
else pointed me in this direction.

I have a problem with one of my harddrives which I will try to explain
he
I have 2 harddrives in my pc 1 is the system harddrive on which my OS
(win2k) is installed. The second one is a harddrive for all my other
things, the size is 80Gb. That harddrive containt 4 partitions of
somewhere arround 20Gb each. This second harddrive is the problem.
Something went terribly wrong during a crash and now Windows says the
drive is 'unformatted'. The partitions are no longer viewable.
In the bios the size of the harddrive isn't correct. The actual size
is 80Gb but the bios says somewhere arround 31Gb.
With EasyRecovery Pro I managed to get a little more information which
have shown that, from the 31Gb, 1 partition (of 20Gb) is still intact
and I am able to recover all the data on that partition. The rest of
the space is 'unindentified'.
I also have a logfile of partition magic, you can view it he
http://www.xs4all.nl/~bjborsje/diskinfo.txt.
My feeling is that all the data is on the harddrive, but that somehow
the partition tables are messed up. I hope there is a way to make this
all work again.

I hope I'm not bothering anyone with this post, it just that I'm a
total dummie if it comes to this kind of complicated problems. I'm
just very worried that I might not be able to get to my other
partitions.




Svend Olaf Mikkelsen July 1st 03 01:21 PM

On 30 Jun 2003 14:29:07 -0700, (Jethro) wrote:

In the bios the size of the harddrive isn't correct. The actual size
is 80Gb but the bios says somewhere arround 31Gb.


The disk is set to 32 GB using jumpers or software. You have to
correct that problem.

If the BIOS does not support 80 GB disks, you have to take that into
consideration when solving the problem.
--
Svend Olaf

Zvi Netiv July 1st 03 03:56 PM

(Jethro) wrote:

Hello everyone,

First of all, I don't know if I am in the right group here, someone
else pointed me in this direction.

I have a problem with one of my harddrives which I will try to explain
he
I have 2 harddrives in my pc 1 is the system harddrive on which my OS
(win2k) is installed. The second one is a harddrive for all my other
things, the size is 80Gb. That harddrive containt 4 partitions of
somewhere arround 20Gb each. This second harddrive is the problem.
Something went terribly wrong during a crash and now Windows says the
drive is 'unformatted'. The partitions are no longer viewable.
In the bios the size of the harddrive isn't correct. The actual size
is 80Gb but the bios says somewhere arround 31Gb.
With EasyRecovery Pro I managed to get a little more information which
have shown that, from the 31Gb, 1 partition (of 20Gb) is still intact
and I am able to recover all the data on that partition. The rest of
the space is 'unindentified'.
I also have a logfile of partition magic, you can view it he
http://www.xs4all.nl/~bjborsje/diskinfo.txt.
My feeling is that all the data is on the harddrive, but that somehow
the partition tables are messed up. I hope there is a way to make this
all work again.


The problem lies he

================================================== =====================
Partition Information for Disk 2: 32,247.7 Megabytes
Volume PartType Status Size MB PartSect # StartSect TotalSects
================================================== =====================
Type 42 Pri 32,247.7 0 0 0 66,043,215


Seems that the drive not being recognized as 80 GB is caused by the bad
partition table in the MBR and the drive setting in the setup being on AUTO.
You could try the following procedu

Download RESQ from http://resq.co.il/resq.php and prepare the rescue floppy by
running the download file on a PC that runs under Win98. If you have no access
to such PC then prepare the FreeDOS boot floppy from our site by aid of
MakeResQ, from http://resq.co.il/resq.php

Boot the problem PC from the floppy made, then from the A: prompt and the RESQ
floppy, run RESQDISK /KILL /2

This will put zeros in the partition table of the second drive without affecting
anything else. Reboot the PC from the floppy and see if the BIOS now detects
the drive with the correct size.

From the A: drive, run now RESQDISK /ASSESS /2

RESQDISK will scan the second drive for partitions and configuration data and
will prepare a report named A:\RESQDISK.RPT (leave the floppy write enabled to
save the report). Post the report here (it's a plain text file) and I should be
able to instruct how to complete the recovery.

Regards, Zvi

I hope I'm not bothering anyone with this post, it just that I'm a
total dummie if it comes to this kind of complicated problems. I'm
just very worried that I might not be able to get to my other
partitions.

--
NetZ Computing Ltd. ISRAEL http://invircible.com
InVircible Virus Defense Solutions, ResQ and Data Recovery Utilities
E-mail sent in reply to this post will not be considered private and
will be answered in the newsgroup. Top posting is not appreciated!

Zvi Netiv July 1st 03 04:13 PM

Zvi Netiv wrote:
(Jethro) wrote:

First of all, I don't know if I am in the right group here, someone
else pointed me in this direction.

I have a problem with one of my harddrives which I will try to explain
he
I have 2 harddrives in my pc 1 is the system harddrive on which my OS
(win2k) is installed. The second one is a harddrive for all my other
things, the size is 80Gb. That harddrive containt 4 partitions of
somewhere arround 20Gb each. This second harddrive is the problem.
Something went terribly wrong during a crash and now Windows says the
drive is 'unformatted'. The partitions are no longer viewable.
In the bios the size of the harddrive isn't correct. The actual size
is 80Gb but the bios says somewhere arround 31Gb.
With EasyRecovery Pro I managed to get a little more information which
have shown that, from the 31Gb, 1 partition (of 20Gb) is still intact
and I am able to recover all the data on that partition. The rest of
the space is 'unindentified'.
I also have a logfile of partition magic, you can view it he
http://www.xs4all.nl/~bjborsje/diskinfo.txt.
My feeling is that all the data is on the harddrive, but that somehow
the partition tables are messed up. I hope there is a way to make this
all work again.


The problem lies he

================================================== =====================
Partition Information for Disk 2: 32,247.7 Megabytes
Volume PartType Status Size MB PartSect # StartSect TotalSects
================================================== =====================
Type 42 Pri 32,247.7 0 0 0 66,043,215


Seems that the drive not being recognized as 80 GB is caused by the bad
partition table in the MBR and the drive setting in the setup being on AUTO.
You could try the following procedu

Download RESQ from http://resq.co.il/resq.php and prepare the rescue floppy by
running the download file on a PC that runs under Win98. If you have no access
to such PC then prepare the FreeDOS boot floppy from our site by aid of
MakeResQ, from http://resq.co.il/resq.php


Sorry, bad link: should be http://http://resq.co.il/iv_tools.php

Boot the problem PC from the floppy made, then from the A: prompt and the RESQ
floppy, run RESQDISK /KILL /2

This will put zeros in the partition table of the second drive without affecting
anything else. Reboot the PC from the floppy and see if the BIOS now detects
the drive with the correct size.

From the A: drive, run now RESQDISK /ASSESS /2

RESQDISK will scan the second drive for partitions and configuration data and
will prepare a report named A:\RESQDISK.RPT (leave the floppy write enabled to
save the report). Post the report here (it's a plain text file) and I should be
able to instruct how to complete the recovery.


Regards, Zvi
--
NetZ Computing Ltd. ISRAEL http://invircible.com
InVircible Virus Defense Solutions, ResQ and Data Recovery Utilities
E-mail sent in reply to this post will not be considered private and
will be answered in the newsgroup. Top posting is not appreciated!

DrSardonic July 2nd 03 09:16 AM

I had a similar problem on 2 drives at once. Windows did no recognize the
drives anymore. I used EZ Recovery Pro and it worked great. It got the
data back intact in total!


"Zvi Netiv" wrote in message
...
Zvi Netiv wrote:
(Jethro) wrote:

First of all, I don't know if I am in the right group here, someone
else pointed me in this direction.

I have a problem with one of my harddrives which I will try to explain
he
I have 2 harddrives in my pc 1 is the system harddrive on which my OS
(win2k) is installed. The second one is a harddrive for all my other
things, the size is 80Gb. That harddrive containt 4 partitions of
somewhere arround 20Gb each. This second harddrive is the problem.
Something went terribly wrong during a crash and now Windows says the
drive is 'unformatted'. The partitions are no longer viewable.
In the bios the size of the harddrive isn't correct. The actual size
is 80Gb but the bios says somewhere arround 31Gb.
With EasyRecovery Pro I managed to get a little more information which
have shown that, from the 31Gb, 1 partition (of 20Gb) is still intact
and I am able to recover all the data on that partition. The rest of
the space is 'unindentified'.
I also have a logfile of partition magic, you can view it he
http://www.xs4all.nl/~bjborsje/diskinfo.txt.
My feeling is that all the data is on the harddrive, but that somehow
the partition tables are messed up. I hope there is a way to make this
all work again.


The problem lies he


================================================== =====================
Partition Information for Disk 2: 32,247.7 Megabytes
Volume PartType Status Size MB PartSect #

StartSect TotalSects

================================================== =====================
Type 42 Pri 32,247.7 0 0

0 66,043,215

Seems that the drive not being recognized as 80 GB is caused by the bad
partition table in the MBR and the drive setting in the setup being on

AUTO.
You could try the following procedu

Download RESQ from http://resq.co.il/resq.php and prepare the rescue

floppy by
running the download file on a PC that runs under Win98. If you have no

access
to such PC then prepare the FreeDOS boot floppy from our site by aid of
MakeResQ, from http://resq.co.il/resq.php


Sorry, bad link: should be http://http://resq.co.il/iv_tools.php

Boot the problem PC from the floppy made, then from the A: prompt and

the RESQ
floppy, run RESQDISK /KILL /2

This will put zeros in the partition table of the second drive without

affecting
anything else. Reboot the PC from the floppy and see if the BIOS now

detects
the drive with the correct size.

From the A: drive, run now RESQDISK /ASSESS /2

RESQDISK will scan the second drive for partitions and configuration

data and
will prepare a report named A:\RESQDISK.RPT (leave the floppy write

enabled to
save the report). Post the report here (it's a plain text file) and I

should be
able to instruct how to complete the recovery.


Regards, Zvi
--
NetZ Computing Ltd. ISRAEL http://invircible.com
InVircible Virus Defense Solutions, ResQ and Data Recovery Utilities
E-mail sent in reply to this post will not be considered private and
will be answered in the newsgroup. Top posting is not appreciated!




Joep July 2nd 03 12:39 PM

"DrSardonic" wrote in message
...
I had a similar problem on 2 drives at once. Windows did no recognize the
drives anymore. I used EZ Recovery Pro and it worked great. It got the
data back intact in total!


Windows not recognizing a drive is often a minor problem while 99.999999%
of the system structures remains intact ... It is those 'Easy' problems
'Easy'Recovery handles well.

Joep

--
D I Y D a t a R e c o v e r y . N L - Data & Disaster Recovery Tools

http://www.diydatarecovery.nl
http://www.diydatarecovery.com

Please include previous correspondence!

DiskPatch - MBR, Partition, boot sector repair and recovery.
iRecover - FAT, FAT32 and NTFS data recovery.
MBRtool - Freeware MBR backup and restore.




Joep July 2nd 03 12:45 PM

One minor thingie ... somehow the partition tables now describe a 'Dynamic
Disk' (type 42h). So is the OP aware of that, was he or wasn't he using a
Dynamic Disk?

Joep

--
D I Y D a t a R e c o v e r y . N L - Data & Disaster Recovery Tools

http://www.diydatarecovery.nl
http://www.diydatarecovery.com

Please include previous correspondence!

DiskPatch - MBR, Partition, boot sector repair and recovery.
iRecover - FAT, FAT32 and NTFS data recovery.
MBRtool - Freeware MBR backup and restore.



"Zvi Netiv" wrote in message
...
Zvi Netiv wrote:
(Jethro) wrote:

First of all, I don't know if I am in the right group here, someone
else pointed me in this direction.

I have a problem with one of my harddrives which I will try to explain
he
I have 2 harddrives in my pc 1 is the system harddrive on which my OS
(win2k) is installed. The second one is a harddrive for all my other
things, the size is 80Gb. That harddrive containt 4 partitions of
somewhere arround 20Gb each. This second harddrive is the problem.
Something went terribly wrong during a crash and now Windows says the
drive is 'unformatted'. The partitions are no longer viewable.
In the bios the size of the harddrive isn't correct. The actual size
is 80Gb but the bios says somewhere arround 31Gb.
With EasyRecovery Pro I managed to get a little more information which
have shown that, from the 31Gb, 1 partition (of 20Gb) is still intact
and I am able to recover all the data on that partition. The rest of
the space is 'unindentified'.
I also have a logfile of partition magic, you can view it he
http://www.xs4all.nl/~bjborsje/diskinfo.txt.
My feeling is that all the data is on the harddrive, but that somehow
the partition tables are messed up. I hope there is a way to make this


all work again.


The problem lies he


================================================== =====================
Partition Information for Disk 2: 32,247.7 Megabytes
Volume PartType Status Size MB PartSect #

StartSect TotalSects

================================================== =====================
Type 42 Pri 32,247.7 0 0

0 66,043,215

Seems that the drive not being recognized as 80 GB is caused by the bad
partition table in the MBR and the drive setting in the setup being on

AUTO.
You could try the following procedu

Download RESQ from http://resq.co.il/resq.php and prepare the rescue

floppy by
running the download file on a PC that runs under Win98. If you have no

access
to such PC then prepare the FreeDOS boot floppy from our site by aid of
MakeResQ, from http://resq.co.il/resq.php


Sorry, bad link: should be http://http://resq.co.il/iv_tools.php

Boot the problem PC from the floppy made, then from the A: prompt and

the RESQ
floppy, run RESQDISK /KILL /2

This will put zeros in the partition table of the second drive without

affecting
anything else. Reboot the PC from the floppy and see if the BIOS now

detects
the drive with the correct size.

From the A: drive, run now RESQDISK /ASSESS /2

RESQDISK will scan the second drive for partitions and configuration

data and
will prepare a report named A:\RESQDISK.RPT (leave the floppy write

enabled to
save the report). Post the report here (it's a plain text file) and I

should be
able to instruct how to complete the recovery.


Regards, Zvi
--
NetZ Computing Ltd. ISRAEL http://invircible.com
InVircible Virus Defense Solutions, ResQ and Data Recovery Utilities
E-mail sent in reply to this post will not be considered private and
will be answered in the newsgroup. Top posting is not appreciated!




Folkert Rienstra July 2nd 03 07:05 PM


"Joep" wrote in message ...
"DrSardonic" wrote in message
...
I had a similar problem on 2 drives at once. Windows did no recognize the
drives anymore. I used EZ Recovery Pro and it worked great. It got the
data back intact in total!


Windows not recognizing a drive is often a minor problem while 99.999999%
of the system structures remains intact ... It is those 'Easy' problems
'Easy'Recovery handles well.


Broodnijd, van der Steen?

AFAICT, that is what most utilities require to actually be
able to restore a volume to recognition and workability.

Several utilities do not even attempt to do that. They only allow
you to backup files and then make you repartition/reformat.


Joep

--
D I Y D a t a R e c o v e r y . N L - Data & Disaster Recovery Tools

http://www.diydatarecovery.nl
http://www.diydatarecovery.com

Please include previous correspondence!

DiskPatch - MBR, Partition, boot sector repair and recovery.
iRecover - FAT, FAT32 and NTFS data recovery.
MBRtool - Freeware MBR backup and restore.




Joep July 2nd 03 09:47 PM

Broodnijd, van der Steen?


Neuhh ... niet echt hoor ;-)

--
Joep



"Folkert Rienstra" wrote in message
...

"Joep" wrote in message

...
"DrSardonic" wrote in message
...
I had a similar problem on 2 drives at once. Windows did no recognize

the
drives anymore. I used EZ Recovery Pro and it worked great. It got

the
data back intact in total!


Windows not recognizing a drive is often a minor problem while

99.999999%
of the system structures remains intact ... It is those 'Easy' problems
'Easy'Recovery handles well.


Broodnijd, van der Steen?

AFAICT, that is what most utilities require to actually be
able to restore a volume to recognition and workability.

Several utilities do not even attempt to do that. They only allow
you to backup files and then make you repartition/reformat.


Joep

--
D I Y D a t a R e c o v e r y . N L - Data & Disaster Recovery Tools

http://www.diydatarecovery.nl
http://www.diydatarecovery.com

Please include previous correspondence!

DiskPatch - MBR, Partition, boot sector repair and recovery.
iRecover - FAT, FAT32 and NTFS data recovery.
MBRtool - Freeware MBR backup and restore.







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