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Percival P. Cassidy November 8th 19 04:15 PM

Seagate plans 50TB spinning rust by 2026
 
https://techreport.com/news/3466913/...drive-roadmap/

Mark Perkins November 8th 19 04:45 PM

Seagate plans 50TB spinning rust by 2026
 
On Fri, 8 Nov 2019 11:15:04 -0500, "Percival P. Cassidy"
wrote:

https://techreport.com/news/3466913/...drive-roadmap/


Nice. I like it. Bigger is (usually) better. If nothing else, it pushes
prices down on the next smaller size.


Yousuf Khan[_2_] November 17th 19 07:43 AM

Seagate plans 50TB spinning rust by 2026
 
On 11/8/2019 11:15 AM, Percival P. Cassidy wrote:
https://techreport.com/news/3466913/...drive-roadmap/


It seems rather optimistic that there will still be hard drives by then.
I can recall six years out from the end of floppy disks that it was
already pretty obvious that they were going to be gone soon. I get the
same feeling with HDD's.

Roger Blake[_2_] November 17th 19 04:53 PM

Seagate plans 50TB spinning rust by 2026
 
On 2019-11-17, Yousuf Khan wrote:
It seems rather optimistic that there will still be hard drives by then.
I can recall six years out from the end of floppy disks that it was
already pretty obvious that they were going to be gone soon. I get the
same feeling with HDD's.


How much will a 50TB SSD cost versus Seagate's 50TB HDD?

Spinning drives will be around until the cost of SSD storage
reaches parity with them.

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Ant[_3_] November 17th 19 08:31 PM

Seagate plans 50TB spinning rust by 2026
 
Roger Blake wrote:
On 2019-11-17, Yousuf Khan wrote:
It seems rather optimistic that there will still be hard drives by then.
I can recall six years out from the end of floppy disks that it was
already pretty obvious that they were going to be gone soon. I get the
same feeling with HDD's.


How much will a 50TB SSD cost versus Seagate's 50TB HDD?


Spinning drives will be around until the cost of SSD storage
reaches parity with them.


Ditto. Huge sized SSDs are still too expensive. :(
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Lynn McGuire[_3_] November 19th 19 12:06 AM

Seagate plans 50TB spinning rust by 2026
 
On 11/17/2019 10:53 AM, Roger Blake wrote:
On 2019-11-17, Yousuf Khan wrote:
It seems rather optimistic that there will still be hard drives by then.
I can recall six years out from the end of floppy disks that it was
already pretty obvious that they were going to be gone soon. I get the
same feeling with HDD's.


How much will a 50TB SSD cost versus Seagate's 50TB HDD?

Spinning drives will be around until the cost of SSD storage
reaches parity with them.


Samsung 4 TB SSD: $450
https://www.amazon.com/Samsung-Inch-...dp/B07L3CLM2B/

Seagate 12 TB HD: $313

https://www.amazon.com/Seagate-IronW...dp/B075XPBD5B/

So it looks like HD's are 23% of the current price of an SSD. That is a
big difference to make up.

Lynn

Ant[_3_] November 19th 19 01:48 AM

Seagate plans 50TB spinning rust by 2026
 
Lynn McGuire wrote:
On 11/17/2019 10:53 AM, Roger Blake wrote:
On 2019-11-17, Yousuf Khan wrote:
It seems rather optimistic that there will still be hard drives by then.
I can recall six years out from the end of floppy disks that it was
already pretty obvious that they were going to be gone soon. I get the
same feeling with HDD's.


How much will a 50TB SSD cost versus Seagate's 50TB HDD?

Spinning drives will be around until the cost of SSD storage
reaches parity with them.


Samsung 4 TB SSD: $450
https://www.amazon.com/Samsung-Inch-...dp/B07L3CLM2B/


Seagate 12 TB HD: $313


https://www.amazon.com/Seagate-IronW...dp/B075XPBD5B/


So it looks like HD's are 23% of the current price of an SSD. That is a
big difference to make up.


Yup. I wonder when huge SSDs will be similar and cheaper to their HDDs.
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Mark Perkins November 19th 19 05:28 AM

Seagate plans 50TB spinning rust by 2026
 
On Mon, 18 Nov 2019 19:48:15 -0600, NT (Ant) wrote:

Lynn McGuire wrote:
On 11/17/2019 10:53 AM, Roger Blake wrote:
On 2019-11-17, Yousuf Khan wrote:
It seems rather optimistic that there will still be hard drives by then.
I can recall six years out from the end of floppy disks that it was
already pretty obvious that they were going to be gone soon. I get the
same feeling with HDD's.

How much will a 50TB SSD cost versus Seagate's 50TB HDD?

Spinning drives will be around until the cost of SSD storage
reaches parity with them.


Samsung 4 TB SSD: $450
https://www.amazon.com/Samsung-Inch-...dp/B07L3CLM2B/

Seagate 12 TB HD: $313


https://www.amazon.com/Seagate-IronW...dp/B075XPBD5B/


So it looks like HD's are 23% of the current price of an SSD. That is a
big difference to make up.


Yup. I wonder when huge SSDs will be similar and cheaper to their HDDs.


At least you said 'when' and not 'if'. Over the past few years, SSD prices
have been falling steadily, and sometimes in big chunks, so it's probably
just a matter of time. It's hard to guess when that will be, so I'll play
it safe and say 'less than two years'. BICBW



Ant[_3_] November 20th 19 05:23 AM

Seagate plans 50TB spinning rust by 2026
 
Mark Perkins wrote:
On Mon, 18 Nov 2019 19:48:15 -0600, NT (Ant) wrote:


Lynn McGuire wrote:
On 11/17/2019 10:53 AM, Roger Blake wrote:
On 2019-11-17, Yousuf Khan wrote:
It seems rather optimistic that there will still be hard drives by then.
I can recall six years out from the end of floppy disks that it was
already pretty obvious that they were going to be gone soon. I get the
same feeling with HDD's.

How much will a 50TB SSD cost versus Seagate's 50TB HDD?

Spinning drives will be around until the cost of SSD storage
reaches parity with them.


Samsung 4 TB SSD: $450
https://www.amazon.com/Samsung-Inch-...dp/B07L3CLM2B/

Seagate 12 TB HD: $313


https://www.amazon.com/Seagate-IronW...dp/B075XPBD5B/


So it looks like HD's are 23% of the current price of an SSD. That is a
big difference to make up.


Yup. I wonder when huge SSDs will be similar and cheaper to their HDDs.


At least you said 'when' and not 'if'. Over the past few years, SSD prices
have been falling steadily, and sometimes in big chunks, so it's probably
just a matter of time. It's hard to guess when that will be, so I'll play
it safe and say 'less than two years'. BICBW


That's not too bad. :)
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Computer Nerd Kev November 20th 19 10:13 PM

Seagate plans 50TB spinning rust by 2026
 
Ant wrote:
Lynn McGuire wrote:

So it looks like HD's are 23% of the current price of an SSD. That is a
big difference to make up.


Yup. I wonder when huge SSDs will be similar and cheaper to their HDDs.


I would be more interested if they focused on better reliability
compared to HDDs instead of trying to match for size. It was that
aspect which excited me about the future of SSDs when they started
to arrive.

With hindsight I now see that the business incentive is far in the
favour of making bigger/faster drives to encourage people to upgrade,
rather than longer-term reliable drives which would discourage
upgrading/replacement.

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