after the install of the MB boot with XP CD and do a repair install
from the console "maurice" wrote in message u... I have have to replace a nvidia chipset mainboard a gigabyte ga7n400, with another mainboard but really dont want to have to do a reinstall of XP. Ideally Id replace with the same model but its a very tight budget (and a very long story!) so I was looking at using another Gigabyte nforce chipset board either the ga7n400L or a new model ga7nf-rz which I can find no info on beyond it uses mcp and spp. I know the sound will be different(the pro uses the nvidia soundstorm chip) but hopefully this wont be a terminal problem, its differences in the different flavors of the nforce chipset I'm most concerned about. I was hoping that the core logic for ide drives etc would be close enough not to cause a problem but if the past history of this job has any bearing then I'm screwed! any thoughts on these issues much appreciated cheers Maurice |
nvidia mainboard swap
I have have to replace a nvidia chipset mainboard a gigabyte ga7n400, with
another mainboard but really dont want to have to do a reinstall of XP. Ideally Id replace with the same model but its a very tight budget (and a very long story!) so I was looking at using another Gigabyte nforce chipset board either the ga7n400L or a new model ga7nf-rz which I can find no info on beyond it uses mcp and spp. I know the sound will be different(the pro uses the nvidia soundstorm chip) but hopefully this wont be a terminal problem, its differences in the different flavors of the nforce chipset I'm most concerned about. I was hoping that the core logic for ide drives etc would be close enough not to cause a problem but if the past history of this job has any bearing then I'm screwed! any thoughts on these issues much appreciated cheers Maurice |
Unless you replace the motherboard with the EXACT SAME MOTHERBOARD,
including version, etc., you'll be hosed if you don not reformat the harddrive and do a CLEAN install of the OS. -- DaveW "maurice" wrote in message u... I have have to replace a nvidia chipset mainboard a gigabyte ga7n400, with another mainboard but really dont want to have to do a reinstall of XP. Ideally Id replace with the same model but its a very tight budget (and a very long story!) so I was looking at using another Gigabyte nforce chipset board either the ga7n400L or a new model ga7nf-rz which I can find no info on beyond it uses mcp and spp. I know the sound will be different(the pro uses the nvidia soundstorm chip) but hopefully this wont be a terminal problem, its differences in the different flavors of the nforce chipset I'm most concerned about. I was hoping that the core logic for ide drives etc would be close enough not to cause a problem but if the past history of this job has any bearing then I'm screwed! any thoughts on these issues much appreciated cheers Maurice |
DaveW wrote:
Unless you replace the motherboard with the EXACT SAME MOTHERBOARD, including version, etc., you'll be hosed if you don not reformat the harddrive and do a CLEAN install of the OS. I do upgrade/repair swaps of comPLETEly different motherboards all the time with no problems whatsoever. |
"maurice" wrote in message u... Ok, two very different opinions here, JAD "1. after the install of the MB boot with XP CD and do a repair install from the console" DaveW "2. Unless you replace the motherboard with the EXACT SAME MOTHERBOARD, including version, etc., you'll be hosed if you don not reformat the harddrive and do a CLEAN install of the OS" Dave, have you had first hand experience with swapping identical chipset boards and having to reformat. Do you have reason to believe the repair console wont work? I normally would reformat but the client has had some custom software installed which will need to be reconfigured by the vendor if I have to reinstall the OS. Anybody else had good or bad luck with either of these scenarios? I had to do much the same recently when an Asus A7N8X stopped working on a Saturday evening - I had an Abit NF7 available, so swapped the components over and rebooted, started Windows (XP Home) in Safe Mode, went to Device Manager, removed everything it would allow, ignoring the requests to reboot until I'd finished, then rebooted properly and allowed Windows to re-detect all it needed. I don't recall it asking for the installation disk, it just sorted itself out and has been fine since (about 3/4 weeks). I did have to re-activate Windows due to the hardware changes but that wasn't a problem. HTH Martin |
Ok, two very different opinions here,
JAD "1. after the install of the MB boot with XP CD and do a repair install from the console" DaveW "2. Unless you replace the motherboard with the EXACT SAME MOTHERBOARD, including version, etc., you'll be hosed if you don not reformat the harddrive and do a CLEAN install of the OS" Dave, have you had first hand experience with swapping identical chipset boards and having to reformat. Do you have reason to believe the repair console wont work? I normally would reformat but the client has had some custom software installed which will need to be reconfigured by the vendor if I have to reinstall the OS. Anybody else had good or bad luck with either of these scenarios? thanks "maurice" wrote in message u... I have have to replace a nvidia chipset mainboard a gigabyte ga7n400, with another mainboard but really dont want to have to do a reinstall of XP. Ideally Id replace with the same model but its a very tight budget (and a very long story!) so I was looking at using another Gigabyte nforce chipset board either the ga7n400L or a new model ga7nf-rz which I can find no info on beyond it uses mcp and spp. I know the sound will be different(the pro uses the nvidia soundstorm chip) but hopefully this wont be a terminal problem, its differences in the different flavors of the nforce chipset I'm most concerned about. I was hoping that the core logic for ide drives etc would be close enough not to cause a problem but if the past history of this job has any bearing then I'm screwed! any thoughts on these issues much appreciated cheers Maurice |
maurice wrote:
Ok, two very different opinions here, JAD "1. after the install of the MB boot with XP CD and do a repair install from the console" You dont want to go into the console. Just put the hardware together, and boot from the XP cdrom. Keep going through the stages as if you were going to do a new install. Eventually you'll be asked if you want to reinstall or repair (not the same as console), and this is what you want. If you miss it, do NOT format anything :-) DaveW "2. Unless you replace the motherboard with the EXACT SAME MOTHERBOARD, including version, etc., you'll be hosed if you don not reformat the harddrive and do a CLEAN install of the OS" Dave is talking out of his arse, this is not the only way. Dave, have you had first hand experience with swapping identical chipset boards and having to reformat. Do you have reason to believe the repair console wont work? I normally would reformat but the client has had some custom software installed which will need to be reconfigured by the vendor if I have to reinstall the OS. Anybody else had good or bad luck with either of these scenarios? I've done both, both work. thanks "maurice" wrote in message .au... I have have to replace a nvidia chipset mainboard a gigabyte ga7n400, with another mainboard but really dont want to have to do a reinstall of XP. Ideally Id replace with the same model but its a very tight budget (and a very long story!) so I was looking at using another Gigabyte nforce chipset board either the ga7n400L or a new model ga7nf-rz which I can find no info on beyond it uses mcp and spp. I know the sound will be different(the pro uses the nvidia soundstorm chip) but hopefully this wont be a terminal problem, its differences in the different flavors of the nforce chipset I'm most concerned about. I was hoping that the core logic for ide drives etc would be close enough not to cause a problem but if the past history of this job has any bearing then I'm screwed! any thoughts on these issues much appreciated cheers Maurice -- spammage trappage: replace fishies_ with yahoo |
the 'proper' way is to use the console.......not to say that what you
do doesn't work. Question: after doing the install your way, have you looked over the boot log? is it without 'failed to load' lines, curious is all. "spodosaurus" wrote in message ... maurice wrote: Ok, two very different opinions here, JAD "1. after the install of the MB boot with XP CD and do a repair install from the console" You dont want to go into the console. Just put the hardware together, and boot from the XP cdrom. Keep going through the stages as if you were going to do a new install. Eventually you'll be asked if you want to reinstall or repair (not the same as console), and this is what you want. If you miss it, do NOT format anything :-) DaveW "2. Unless you replace the motherboard with the EXACT SAME MOTHERBOARD, including version, etc., you'll be hosed if you don not reformat the harddrive and do a CLEAN install of the OS" Dave is talking out of his arse, this is not the only way. Dave, have you had first hand experience with swapping identical chipset boards and having to reformat. Do you have reason to believe the repair console wont work? I normally would reformat but the client has had some custom software installed which will need to be reconfigured by the vendor if I have to reinstall the OS. Anybody else had good or bad luck with either of these scenarios? I've done both, both work. thanks "maurice" wrote in message .au... I have have to replace a nvidia chipset mainboard a gigabyte ga7n400, with another mainboard but really dont want to have to do a reinstall of XP. Ideally Id replace with the same model but its a very tight budget (and a very long story!) so I was looking at using another Gigabyte nforce chipset board either the ga7n400L or a new model ga7nf-rz which I can find no info on beyond it uses mcp and spp. I know the sound will be different(the pro uses the nvidia soundstorm chip) but hopefully this wont be a terminal problem, its differences in the different flavors of the nforce chipset I'm most concerned about. I was hoping that the core logic for ide drives etc would be close enough not to cause a problem but if the past history of this job has any bearing then I'm screwed! any thoughts on these issues much appreciated cheers Maurice -- spammage trappage: replace fishies_ with yahoo |
JAD wrote:
the 'proper' way is to use the console....... Using 'the console' is the 'proper' way to do WHAT? not to say that what you do doesn't work. Question: after doing the install your way, have you looked over the boot log? is it without 'failed to load' lines, curious is all. "spodosaurus" wrote in message ... maurice wrote: Ok, two very different opinions here, JAD "1. after the install of the MB boot with XP CD and do a repair install from the console" You dont want to go into the console. Just put the hardware together, and boot from the XP cdrom. Keep going through the stages as if you were going to do a new install. Eventually you'll be asked if you want to reinstall or repair (not the same as console), and this is what you want. If you miss it, do NOT format anything :-) DaveW "2. Unless you replace the motherboard with the EXACT SAME MOTHERBOARD, including version, etc., you'll be hosed if you don not reformat the harddrive and do a CLEAN install of the OS" Dave is talking out of his arse, this is not the only way. Dave, have you had first hand experience with swapping identical chipset boards and having to reformat. Do you have reason to believe the repair console wont work? I normally would reformat but the client has had some custom software installed which will need to be reconfigured by the vendor if I have to reinstall the OS. Anybody else had good or bad luck with either of these scenarios? I've done both, both work. thanks "maurice" wrote in message om.au... I have have to replace a nvidia chipset mainboard a gigabyte ga7n400, with another mainboard but really dont want to have to do a reinstall of XP. Ideally Id replace with the same model but its a very tight budget (and a very long story!) so I was looking at using another Gigabyte nforce chipset board either the ga7n400L or a new model ga7nf-rz which I can find no info on beyond it uses mcp and spp. I know the sound will be different(the pro uses the nvidia soundstorm chip) but hopefully this wont be a terminal problem, its differences in the different flavors of the nforce chipset I'm most concerned about. I was hoping that the core logic for ide drives etc would be close enough not to cause a problem but if the past history of this job has any bearing then I'm screwed! any thoughts on these issues much appreciated cheers Maurice -- spammage trappage: replace fishies_ with yahoo |
On Sat, 21 Aug 2004 12:30:31 -0700 To confuse Arrogance with
Confidence is as stupid as to confuse Ambition with Ability and then "JAD" wrote : the 'proper' way is to use the console.......not to say that what you do doesn't work. Question: after doing the install your way, have you looked over the boot log? is it without 'failed to load' lines, curious is all. Read here Jad, http://www.webtree.ca/windowsxp/repair_xp.htm The console sucks. -- Free Windows/PC help, http://www.geocities.com/sheppola/trouble.html remove obvious to reply Free songs to download and,"BURN" :O) http://www.soundclick.com/bands/8/nomessiahsmusic.htm |
evening shep,
I read where is it that it sucks.....From Kelly Theriot. This is a must read? I have always used it,,,procedures outlined in MCSE manual, show the console as the correct way, not that they are always the best or fastest way. "Shepİ" wrote in message ... On Sat, 21 Aug 2004 12:30:31 -0700 To confuse Arrogance with Confidence is as stupid as to confuse Ambition with Ability and then "JAD" wrote : the 'proper' way is to use the console.......not to say that what you do doesn't work. Question: after doing the install your way, have you looked over the boot log? is it without 'failed to load' lines, curious is all. Read here Jad, http://www.webtree.ca/windowsxp/repair_xp.htm The console sucks. -- Free Windows/PC help, http://www.geocities.com/sheppola/trouble.html remove obvious to reply Free songs to download and,"BURN" :O) http://www.soundclick.com/bands/8/nomessiahsmusic.htm |
You dont want to go into the console. Just put the hardware
together, and boot from the XP cdrom. Keep going through the stages as if you were going to do a new install. Eventually you'll be asked if you want to reinstall or repair (not the same as console), and this is what you want. If you miss it, do NOT format anything :-) If one is interested in reading a post/thread for the sake of information one usually reads the whole thread. Whats your reason? "David Maynard" wrote in message ... JAD wrote: the 'proper' way is to use the console....... not to say that what you do doesn't work. Question: after doing the install your way, have you looked over the boot log? is it without 'failed to load' lines, curious is all. "spodosaurus" wrote in message ... maurice wrote: Ok, two very different opinions here, JAD "1. after the install of the MB boot with XP CD and do a repair install from the console" You dont want to go into the console. Just put the hardware together, and boot from the XP cdrom. Keep going through the stages as if you were going to do a new install. Eventually you'll be asked if you want to reinstall or repair (not the same as console), and this is what you want. If you miss it, do NOT format anything :-) DaveW "2. Unless you replace the motherboard with the EXACT SAME MOTHERBOARD, including version, etc., you'll be hosed if you don not reformat the harddrive and do a CLEAN install of the OS" Dave is talking out of his arse, this is not the only way. Dave, have you had first hand experience with swapping identical chipset boards and having to reformat. Do you have reason to believe the repair console wont work? I normally would reformat but the client has had some custom software installed which will need to be reconfigured by the vendor if I have to reinstall the OS. Anybody else had good or bad luck with either of these scenarios? I've done both, both work. thanks "maurice" wrote in message om.au... I have have to replace a nvidia chipset mainboard a gigabyte ga7n400, with another mainboard but really dont want to have to do a reinstall of XP. Ideally Id replace with the same model but its a very tight budget (and a very long story!) so I was looking at using another Gigabyte nforce chipset board either the ga7n400L or a new model ga7nf-rz which I can find no info on beyond it uses mcp and spp. I know the sound will be different(the pro uses the nvidia soundstorm chip) but hopefully this wont be a terminal problem, its differences in the different flavors of the nforce chipset I'm most concerned about. I was hoping that the core logic for ide drives etc would be close enough not to cause a problem but if the past history of this job has any bearing then I'm screwed! any thoughts on these issues much appreciated cheers Maurice -- spammage trappage: replace fishies_ with yahoo |
Shepİ wrote:
On Sat, 21 Aug 2004 12:30:31 -0700 To confuse Arrogance with Confidence is as stupid as to confuse Ambition with Ability and then "JAD" wrote : the 'proper' way is to use the console.......not to say that what you do doesn't work. Question: after doing the install your way, have you looked over the boot log? is it without 'failed to load' lines, curious is all. Read here Jad, http://www.webtree.ca/windowsxp/repair_xp.htm The console sucks. The section you want, JAD, is about two-thirds of the way down and titled "How to Repair Install: (also called "In place reinstall")" -- spammage trappage: replace fishies_ with yahoo |
JAD wrote:
evening shep, I read where is it that it sucks.....From Kelly Theriot. This is a must read? I have always used it,,,procedures outlined in MCSE manual, show the console as the correct way, not that they are always the best or fastest way. How many home users have that lying around? "Shepİ" wrote in message ... On Sat, 21 Aug 2004 12:30:31 -0700 To confuse Arrogance with Confidence is as stupid as to confuse Ambition with Ability and then "JAD" wrote : the 'proper' way is to use the console.......not to say that what you do doesn't work. Question: after doing the install your way, have you looked over the boot log? is it without 'failed to load' lines, curious is all. Read here Jad, http://www.webtree.ca/windowsxp/repair_xp.htm The console sucks. -- Free Windows/PC help, http://www.geocities.com/sheppola/trouble.html remove obvious to reply Free songs to download and,"BURN" :O) http://www.soundclick.com/bands/8/nomessiahsmusic.htm -- spammage trappage: replace fishies_ with yahoo |
isn't that why they come here..............cause they don't have the
manual....AAMOF they come here often cause they don't read the manuals they have. "spodosaurus" wrote in message ... JAD wrote: evening shep, I read where is it that it sucks.....From Kelly Theriot. This is a must read? I have always used it,,,procedures outlined in MCSE manual, show the console as the correct way, not that they are always the best or fastest way. How many home users have that lying around? "Shepİ" wrote in message ... On Sat, 21 Aug 2004 12:30:31 -0700 To confuse Arrogance with Confidence is as stupid as to confuse Ambition with Ability and then "JAD" wrote : the 'proper' way is to use the console.......not to say that what you do doesn't work. Question: after doing the install your way, have you looked over the boot log? is it without 'failed to load' lines, curious is all. Read here Jad, http://www.webtree.ca/windowsxp/repair_xp.htm The console sucks. -- Free Windows/PC help, http://www.geocities.com/sheppola/trouble.html remove obvious to reply Free songs to download and,"BURN" :O) http://www.soundclick.com/bands/8/nomessiahsmusic.htm -- spammage trappage: replace fishies_ with yahoo |
well I'll tell ya what....OEM versions are EVERYWHERE... and the main
reason I use it is because of the dual boot systems that I deal with everyday. Have you used your way on dual boot systems also? Is there an option to chose which partition you want to repair? "spodosaurus" wrote in message ... Shepİ wrote: On Sat, 21 Aug 2004 12:30:31 -0700 To confuse Arrogance with Confidence is as stupid as to confuse Ambition with Ability and then "JAD" wrote : the 'proper' way is to use the console.......not to say that what you do doesn't work. Question: after doing the install your way, have you looked over the boot log? is it without 'failed to load' lines, curious is all. Read here Jad, http://www.webtree.ca/windowsxp/repair_xp.htm The console sucks. The section you want, JAD, is about two-thirds of the way down and titled "How to Repair Install: (also called "In place reinstall")" -- spammage trappage: replace fishies_ with yahoo |
JAD wrote:
isn't that why they come here..............cause they don't have the manual....AAMOF they come here often cause they don't read the manuals they have. Then perhaps you'd care to type out, step by step, the procedure for using the repair console to accomplish this task. "spodosaurus" wrote in message ... JAD wrote: evening shep, I read where is it that it sucks.....From Kelly Theriot. This is a must read? I have always used it,,,procedures outlined in MCSE manual, show the console as the correct way, not that they are always the best or fastest way. How many home users have that lying around? "Shepİ" wrote in message ... On Sat, 21 Aug 2004 12:30:31 -0700 To confuse Arrogance with Confidence is as stupid as to confuse Ambition with Ability and then "JAD" wrote : the 'proper' way is to use the console.......not to say that what you do doesn't work. Question: after doing the install your way, have you looked over the boot log? is it without 'failed to load' lines, curious is all. Read here Jad, http://www.webtree.ca/windowsxp/repair_xp.htm The console sucks. -- Free Windows/PC help, http://www.geocities.com/sheppola/trouble.html remove obvious to reply Free songs to download and,"BURN" :O) http://www.soundclick.com/bands/8/nomessiahsmusic.htm -- spammage trappage: replace fishies_ with yahoo -- spammage trappage: replace fishies_ with yahoo |
Then perhaps you'd care to type out, step by step, the procedure for
using the repair console to accomplish this task. well, that would be redundant as the link that was given, covers all the different ways,,,,,,,,,,,,\' "spodosaurus" wrote in message ... JAD wrote: isn't that why they come here..............cause they don't have the manual....AAMOF they come here often cause they don't read the manuals they have. "spodosaurus" wrote in message ... JAD wrote: evening shep, I read where is it that it sucks.....From Kelly Theriot. This is a must read? I have always used it,,,procedures outlined in MCSE manual, show the console as the correct way, not that they are always the best or fastest way. How many home users have that lying around? "Shepİ" wrote in message ... On Sat, 21 Aug 2004 12:30:31 -0700 To confuse Arrogance with Confidence is as stupid as to confuse Ambition with Ability and then "JAD" wrote : the 'proper' way is to use the console.......not to say that what you do doesn't work. Question: after doing the install your way, have you looked over the boot log? is it without 'failed to load' lines, curious is all. Read here Jad, http://www.webtree.ca/windowsxp/repair_xp.htm The console sucks. -- Free Windows/PC help, http://www.geocities.com/sheppola/trouble.html remove obvious to reply Free songs to download and,"BURN" :O) http://www.soundclick.com/bands/8/nomessiahsmusic.htm -- spammage trappage: replace fishies_ with yahoo -- spammage trappage: replace fishies_ with yahoo |
JAD wrote:
well I'll tell ya what....OEM versions are EVERYWHERE... and the main reason I use it is because of the dual boot systems that I deal with everyday. Have you used your way on dual boot systems also? Is there an option to chose which partition you want to repair? Try it out. "spodosaurus" wrote in message ... Shepİ wrote: On Sat, 21 Aug 2004 12:30:31 -0700 To confuse Arrogance with Confidence is as stupid as to confuse Ambition with Ability and then "JAD" wrote : the 'proper' way is to use the console.......not to say that what you do doesn't work. Question: after doing the install your way, have you looked over the boot log? is it without 'failed to load' lines, curious is all. Read here Jad, http://www.webtree.ca/windowsxp/repair_xp.htm The console sucks. The section you want, JAD, is about two-thirds of the way down and titled "How to Repair Install: (also called "In place reinstall")" -- spammage trappage: replace fishies_ with yahoo -- spammage trappage: replace fishies_ with yahoo |
you don't know?
"spodosaurus" wrote in message ... JAD wrote: well I'll tell ya what....OEM versions are EVERYWHERE... and the main reason I use it is because of the dual boot systems that I deal with everyday. Have you used your way on dual boot systems also? Is there an option to chose which partition you want to repair? Try it out. "spodosaurus" wrote in message ... Shepİ wrote: On Sat, 21 Aug 2004 12:30:31 -0700 To confuse Arrogance with Confidence is as stupid as to confuse Ambition with Ability and then "JAD" wrote : the 'proper' way is to use the console.......not to say that what you do doesn't work. Question: after doing the install your way, have you looked over the boot log? is it without 'failed to load' lines, curious is all. Read here Jad, http://www.webtree.ca/windowsxp/repair_xp.htm The console sucks. The section you want, JAD, is about two-thirds of the way down and titled "How to Repair Install: (also called "In place reinstall")" -- spammage trappage: replace fishies_ with yahoo -- spammage trappage: replace fishies_ with yahoo |
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