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Robert Myers wrote:
Bill Davidsen wrote:

Robert Myers wrote:

DIMM slots 0 and 2 had been installed correctly and the "upgrade" was
installed to slot 3.

I would expect that to pass smoke test, then, incorrectly installed as
in not full speed rather than upside down or something, I'm actually
surprised that it didn't show up working on POST and only be obvious
with the cover off or using dmidecode. Or whatever the Windows tool is
to get the same information.


I would have expected it to boot, too, but it didn't. I tried to boot
before opening the machine. It's been long enough that I don't remember
if it got past a power-on POST and stopped at a blank screen. Maybe
that would have constituted passing a smoke test. I can understand why
a tester in a hurry wouldn't want to wait for Vista to boot.

Since I intended to add memory, I didn't hesitate to take the cover off
to see what was going on. Making what I thought would be a correct
memory install fixed the problem.

Glad you like it, I have been thinking of a 930 for a KVM server, drop in 12GB
of RAM and 4TB of cheap disk and put all the boring little 512m servers on Earth
on it.

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On Jun 22, 4:31*pm, Bill Davidsen wrote:


Glad you like it, I have been thinking of a 930 for a KVM server, drop in 12GB
of RAM and 4TB of cheap disk and put all the boring little 512m servers on Earth
on it.

Everything now goes through this 64-bit Windows desktop, including a
virtual 64-bit Fedora 13 and a virtual 32-bit Windows XP Professional,
with a Cygwin X-server handling graphical output from other Linux
boxes. The virtualized machines, both Windows and Linux running
simultaneously, are at least as snappy as Windows and Linux running on
E8200 and E8400 Core 2 Duo. I wish someone made affordable 4Gb DDR3
non-ECC, since memory is the only thing that is ever remotely in short
supply. The virtualized XP Professional will allow me to decommission
a separate box running XP just to support a handful of legacy XP
programs.

Robert.

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Robert Myers wrote:
On Jun 22, 4:31 pm, Bill Davidsen wrote:

Glad you like it, I have been thinking of a 930 for a KVM server, drop in 12GB
of RAM and 4TB of cheap disk and put all the boring little 512m servers on Earth
on it.

Everything now goes through this 64-bit Windows desktop, including a
virtual 64-bit Fedora 13 and a virtual 32-bit Windows XP Professional,
with a Cygwin X-server handling graphical output from other Linux
boxes. The virtualized machines, both Windows and Linux running
simultaneously, are at least as snappy as Windows and Linux running on
E8200 and E8400 Core 2 Duo. I wish someone made affordable 4Gb DDR3
non-ECC, since memory is the only thing that is ever remotely in short
supply. The virtualized XP Professional will allow me to decommission
a separate box running XP just to support a handful of legacy XP
programs.

That's one of the reasons I'm looking at an i7-930 and Asus m/b for a hosting
system, I can get to 12GB with cheap memory. On the other hand, the i7-875
unlocked is cheap and allows o/c by use of multiplier. But no cheap memory
there, need 4GB parts. I'm tempted to build a host machine with Xeons and ECC
memory, slightly more reliable and all, but I think slower.

Lots of ways to go, each with a drawback. :-(

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On Jul 9, 6:56*pm, Bill Davidsen wrote:


That's one of the reasons I'm looking at an i7-930 and Asus m/b for a hosting
system, I can get to 12GB with cheap memory. On the other hand, the i7-875
unlocked is cheap and allows o/c by use of multiplier. But no cheap memory
there, need 4GB parts. I'm tempted to build a host machine with Xeons and ECC
memory, slightly more reliable and all, but I think slower.

Lots of ways to go, each with a drawback. :-(

I was just as happy that the i-7 920 slipped through the oddities of
Intel's market segmentation strategies. When the chip had just come
out, I saw a geek buying the parts to build a computer for a chess
competition. Who else buys machines with these chips? I can use the
memory bandwidth, but, for most, the triple channel arrangement is
overkill. All you really want is the extra memory slots. Just glad
to have it, wish 4GB sticks weren't so expensive.

Robert.

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Robert Myers wrote:
On Jul 9, 6:56 pm, Bill Davidsen wrote:

That's one of the reasons I'm looking at an i7-930 and Asus m/b for a hosting
system, I can get to 12GB with cheap memory. On the other hand, the i7-875
unlocked is cheap and allows o/c by use of multiplier. But no cheap memory
there, need 4GB parts. I'm tempted to build a host machine with Xeons and ECC
memory, slightly more reliable and all, but I think slower.

Lots of ways to go, each with a drawback. :-(

I was just as happy that the i-7 920 slipped through the oddities of
Intel's market segmentation strategies. When the chip had just come
out, I saw a geek buying the parts to build a computer for a chess
competition. Who else buys machines with these chips? I can use the
memory bandwidth, but, for most, the triple channel arrangement is
overkill. All you really want is the extra memory slots. Just glad
to have it, wish 4GB sticks weren't so expensive.

It's relative, Newegg has a sale on three channel memory, ddr3 1600, 12GB/$500.
I can remember not having 12GB of disk, so that's not all that expensive. They
have the i7-930 and Asus board for $500 also, TB drives for $68, I paid millions
for that kind of capacity "back when." ;-)

But the memory isn't that crazy, I was thinking that for $1k I could move from
one old core2-6600 w/ 4GB to enough to make the VMs dance a little faster.

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On Jul 10, 3:47*pm, Bill Davidsen wrote:

But the memory isn't that crazy, I was thinking that for $1k I could move from
one old core2-6600 w/ 4GB to enough to make the VMs dance a little faster..

I haven't gushed about a chip since the 130nm Tualatin. Mostly, I've
wondered why the chip couldn't deliver what I expected.

Core i7-920 is an exception. Virtualization works well enough so
that, except for Linux and the sound card, I don't notice that I'm
using a virtual machine, which is noticeably faster than a 3GHz
Pentium 4 for Linux. Windows XP on Windows Vista even makes the sound
card transparent. I'm using all vmware, so I don't know how other
solutions might work. I haven't yet succeeded in overloading it.

I'll admit, I've become so cynical about computers and software that
just seeing a gnome-terminal pop when I ask for it seems like a
miracle, never mind that it's on a virtual box. Admittedly, the core
2 duo E8xx almost seem like overkill for a single user, but I haven't
tried to virtualize anything on them (yet).

Robert.