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January 11th 05, 02:06 AM
Hello!

Is this temperature considered too hot for a 80 degrees(F) room and 100+
degrees(F) ASUS A7V333 motherboard's temperature sensor? It is in a
mid-tower ATX PC case. You can read the full computer specifications at
http://alpha.zimage.com/~ant/antfarm/about/computers.txt (primary box).
I wonder if the current fans are not enough.

Thank you in advance. :)
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Dee
January 11th 05, 02:27 AM
wrote:

> Hello!
>
> Is this temperature considered too hot for a 80 degrees(F) room and 100+
> degrees(F) ASUS A7V333 motherboard's temperature sensor? It is in a
> mid-tower ATX PC case. You can read the full computer specifications at
> http://alpha.zimage.com/~ant/antfarm/about/computers.txt (primary box).
> I wonder if the current fans are not enough.
>
> Thank you in advance. :)

Based on my experience, I would say that is W A A A Y too high! Mine
typically runs about 31-32 (88-90F) degrees Celsius, 40-45 (104-113F)
under heavy CPU load. 143 F is about 62 C.

Make sure your heat sink & fan (HST) are properly mounted with the
correct amount of thermal conductive compound, not too much, just enough.

Dee
January 11th 05, 02:32 AM
wrote:

> Hello!
>
> Is this temperature considered too hot for a 80 degrees(F) room and 100+
> degrees(F) ASUS A7V333 motherboard's temperature sensor? It is in a
> mid-tower ATX PC case. You can read the full computer specifications at
> http://alpha.zimage.com/~ant/antfarm/about/computers.txt (primary box).
> I wonder if the current fans are not enough.
>
> Thank you in advance. :)

How did you manage to mount a 754 pin Athlon 64 in a Socket A board?

Are you sure you know what you're talking about?

January 11th 05, 03:25 AM
Dee > wrote:
> wrote:

> > Hello!
> >
> > Is this temperature considered too hot for a 80 degrees(F) room and 100+
> > degrees(F) ASUS A7V333 motherboard's temperature sensor? It is in a
> > mid-tower ATX PC case. You can read the full computer specifications at
> > http://alpha.zimage.com/~ant/antfarm/about/computers.txt (primary box).
> > I wonder if the current fans are not enough.
> >
> > Thank you in advance. :)

> Based on my experience, I would say that is W A A A Y too high! Mine
> typically runs about 31-32 (88-90F) degrees Celsius, 40-45 (104-113F)
> under heavy CPU load. 143 F is about 62 C.

> Make sure your heat sink & fan (HST) are properly mounted with the
> correct amount of thermal conductive compound, not too much, just enough.

OK, this is when I am gaming and something intensive. I guess I better go
fix this up. I wondering why DOOM 3 and Half-Life 2 crashes. Even HL2
gives me blue screens!
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January 11th 05, 03:36 AM
Dee > wrote:
> wrote:

> > Hello!
> >
> > Is this temperature considered too hot for a 80 degrees(F) room and 100+
> > degrees(F) ASUS A7V333 motherboard's temperature sensor? It is in a
> > mid-tower ATX PC case. You can read the full computer specifications at
> > http://alpha.zimage.com/~ant/antfarm/about/computers.txt (primary box).
> > I wonder if the current fans are not enough.
> >
> > Thank you in advance. :)

> How did you manage to mount a 754 pin Athlon 64 in a Socket A board?

DOH! My bad. I meant to say ASUS K8V SE Deluxe (VIA K8T800 Socket 754 ATX).
I was thinking of my old computer. Sorry! Good catch though. :)
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Vermyndax
January 11th 05, 03:55 PM
wrote:
> Hello!
>
> Is this temperature considered too hot for a 80 degrees(F) room and 100+
> degrees(F) ASUS A7V333 motherboard's temperature sensor? It is in a
> mid-tower ATX PC case. You can read the full computer specifications at
> http://alpha.zimage.com/~ant/antfarm/about/computers.txt (primary box).
> I wonder if the current fans are not enough.
>
> Thank you in advance. :)

That's a wee bit warm. Although my environment temp is 72-73'F, and I
have an Athlon 64 3500+... typical heat is 104'F on processor, ambient
about 99'F inside case. If I overclock the processor, I've seen it get
as high as 143'F under normal load, 167'F under duress.

--JM

Peter van der Goes
January 12th 05, 02:16 PM
> wrote in message
...
> Hello!
>
> Is this temperature considered too hot for a 80 degrees(F) room and 100+
> degrees(F) ASUS A7V333 motherboard's temperature sensor? It is in a
> mid-tower ATX PC case. You can read the full computer specifications at
> http://alpha.zimage.com/~ant/antfarm/about/computers.txt (primary box).
> I wonder if the current fans are not enough.
>
> Thank you in advance. :)
> --
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> much leisure." --Gerald Brenan
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Way too hot IMHO.
Case temp of almost 40C? (BTW, the convention is to report/discuss temps in
C, not F). I realize the room is warm, but proper case configuration and
cooling should reduce that to within 10F of the room temp.
You also need to look at HSF installation/operation, as your CPU temp is
high even in relation to your current case temp.
Post details of your configuration (fan types and placement, etc.) for more
suggestions.

January 13th 05, 01:07 AM
Peter van der Goes > wrote:

> > wrote in message
> ...
> > Hello!
> >
> > Is this temperature considered too hot for a 80 degrees(F) room and 100+
> > degrees(F) ASUS A7V333 motherboard's temperature sensor? It is in a
> > mid-tower ATX PC case. You can read the full computer specifications at
> > http://alpha.zimage.com/~ant/antfarm/about/computers.txt (primary box).
> > I wonder if the current fans are not enough.
> >
> > Thank you in advance. :)

> Way too hot IMHO.
> Case temp of almost 40C? (BTW, the convention is to report/discuss temps in
> C, not F). I realize the room is warm, but proper case configuration and
> cooling should reduce that to within 10F of the room temp.
> You also need to look at HSF installation/operation, as your CPU temp is
> high even in relation to your current case temp.
> Post details of your configuration (fan types and placement, etc.) for more
> suggestions.

My fans are listed in the URL shown in my original post. Last night, it
was about 70 degrees(F) and CPU was about 129. I will have to fix this.
I wasn't even gaming either. Gaming causes the crashes (e.g., blue
screens).

Note, I didn't build this computer so I don't know how the fans are
placed.
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Dee
January 13th 05, 01:23 AM
If you're going to post again, give your temperatures in Celsius - not
Fahrenheit!!!

Peter van der Goes
January 13th 05, 04:25 PM
> wrote in message
...
> Peter van der Goes > wrote:
>
>
> My fans are listed in the URL shown in my original post. Last night, it
> was about 70 degrees(F) and CPU was about 129. I will have to fix this.
> I wasn't even gaming either. Gaming causes the crashes (e.g., blue
> screens).
>
> Note, I didn't build this computer so I don't know how the fans are
> placed.
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> much leisure." --Gerald Brenan
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A couple of things:
Many people don't just click on any link provided by an unknown source for
many valid reasons.
The description you reference mentions:
<quote>
....two 80 mm case fans, a 3 fan HDD Peeze cooler,...
</quote>
Not knowing where the fans are, or how they are configured, this tells me
nothing about the cooling system design. Improperly placed fans, or fans
moving air in the wrong direction can actually create higher temperatures in
your PC.
Typically, case fans are installed to draw cool air in at the lower front
and exhaust hot air at the rear back
My personal experience is that exhausting hot air from around the CPU area
is critically important.
Can you open the case and see where the fans are and in what direction they
are moving air?

For comparison to your situation...
I have several computers here configured in a LAN in the house. Most use
Athlon XP processors running at xp 3200+ speeds. The typical temperatures I
see are as follows: Room temperature: 21C. Case temperature: 23 - 28C. CPU
temperature: 38 - 44C.
I use full tower cases that mount either 2 80mm exhaust fans at the back,
just below the PSU or one 120mm exhaust fan, and one 80mm intake at the
front. On the athlon XP's I use Vantec VA4-C7040 HSF's. I replaced the
motherboard in one of these PC's recently with an Asus A8V and A64 3200+
with retail HSF. It runs cooler than the A7 XP's.

You mention that you did not build the computer. If you purchased it, then
approach the seller about the obvious cooling issues and unreliability. I
assume that you did not purchase it "as is"?

January 17th 05, 12:12 PM
wrote:
> Hello!

> Is this temperature considered too hot for a 80 degrees(F) room and 100+
> degrees(F) ASUS K8V SE motherboard's temperature sensor? It is in a
> mid-tower ATX PC case. You can read the full computer specifications at
> http://alpha.zimage.com/~ant/antfarm/about/computers.txt (primary box).
> I wonder if the current fans are not enough.

> Thank you in advance. :)

As a follow-up:

Redid the thermal paste in the CPU, readjusted its heat sink, and even
added an Arctic Cooling VGA Silencer revision 2 for ATI Radeon 9800 Pro
AIW (128 MB) card. My current CPU temperature is about 55 C/131 F
degrees, MB temperature is about 38 C/100 F. This is in a 75 F/24 C
degrees room. At least I fixed my DOOM 3's issue with dots (known issue)
with ATI Radeon video cards.

I am still worried about the CPU temperatures. Still a bit high. I am
not OC'ing or doing anything heavy at the moment.
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Dave
January 17th 05, 01:17 PM
>> Hello!
>
>> Is this temperature considered too hot for a 80 degrees(F) room and 100+
>> degrees(F) ASUS K8V SE motherboard's temperature sensor? It is in a
>> mid-tower ATX PC case. You can read the full computer specifications at
>> http://alpha.zimage.com/~ant/antfarm/about/computers.txt (primary box).
>> I wonder if the current fans are not enough.
>
>> Thank you in advance. :)
>
> As a follow-up:
>
> Redid the thermal paste in the CPU, readjusted its heat sink, and even
> added an Arctic Cooling VGA Silencer revision 2 for ATI Radeon 9800 Pro
> AIW (128 MB) card. My current CPU temperature is about 55 C/131 F
> degrees, MB temperature is about 38 C/100 F. This is in a 75 F/24 C
> degrees room. At least I fixed my DOOM 3's issue with dots (known issue)
> with ATI Radeon video cards.
>
> I am still worried about the CPU temperatures. Still a bit high. I am
> not OC'ing or doing anything heavy at the moment.

Try leaving the side of the case off. If temps drop then the case
ventilation is poor. If they increase then something else is the problem.
Perhaps a BIOS update.

Dave

Wes Newell
January 17th 05, 01:48 PM
On Mon, 17 Jan 2005 05:12:16 -0600, ANTant wrote:

> As a follow-up:
>
> Redid the thermal paste in the CPU, readjusted its heat sink, and even
> added an Arctic Cooling VGA Silencer revision 2 for ATI Radeon 9800 Pro
> AIW (128 MB) card. My current CPU temperature is about 55 C/131 F
> degrees, MB temperature is about 38 C/100 F. This is in a 75 F/24 C
> degrees room. At least I fixed my DOOM 3's issue with dots (known issue)
> with ATI Radeon video cards.
>
> I am still worried about the CPU temperatures. Still a bit high. I am
> not OC'ing or doing anything heavy at the moment.

So lower the MB temp to under 30C and the cpu temps will also lower. Easy
way to see how much is just to remove the side cover for about 15 minutes.
With a 20C (68F) room temp, my MB temp is 24C and full load cpu temp is
42C.

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