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Ivronovich
November 24th 04, 12:58 AM
I was thinking about getting the 3500 socket 939, but then read an article
(URL below) saying that the 3000 could reach 2.6 ghz when over-clocked, the
same as the 3500. That being the case, what would be the advantage to buying
the 3500+? Would over-clocking the 3000 shorten the life of the chip?

thank you for all inputs

Ivronovich
November 24th 04, 01:00 AM
http://anandtech.com/cpuchipsets/showdoc.aspx?i=2242&p=5


"Ivronovich" > wrote in message
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>I was thinking about getting the 3500 socket 939, but then read an article
>(URL below) saying that the 3000 could reach 2.6 ghz when over-clocked, the
>same as the 3500. That being the case, what would be the advantage to
>buying the 3500+? Would over-clocking the 3000 shorten the life of the
>chip?
>
> thank you for all inputs
>
>

Carlo Razzeto
November 24th 04, 01:49 AM
"Ivronovich" > wrote in message
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>I was thinking about getting the 3500 socket 939, but then read an article
>(URL below) saying that the 3000 could reach 2.6 ghz when over-clocked, the
>same as the 3500. That being the case, what would be the advantage to
>buying the 3500+? Would over-clocking the 3000 shorten the life of the
>chip?
>
> thank you for all inputs
>
>

Yes, and void your warrenty. Unless you like overclocking and tweaking your
system I would recommend you buy the 3500+ rather than over clocking the
3000+.

Carlo

Wes Newell
November 24th 04, 10:58 PM
On Tue, 23 Nov 2004 17:58:53 -0600, Ivronovich wrote:

> I was thinking about getting the 3500 socket 939, but then read an article
> (URL below) saying that the 3000 could reach 2.6 ghz when over-clocked, the
> same as the 3500. That being the case, what would be the advantage to buying
> the 3500+?

Nothing except a garauntee that it will run as a 3500+. This assumes the
3000+ you buy is the same (or newer) core.

> Would over-clocking the 3000 shorten the life of the chip?
>
As long as you don't go overboard, not by enough to matter. Now if you max
out vcore and clockspeed then it may fail within a year (and it nay not).
At this point how cool you keep the core will have a great impact. But the
same would apply to the 3500+ also. Running the 3000+ as a 3500+ with the
same vcore should last as long as a real 3500+, again assuming they are
the same core.

--
Abit KT7-Raid (KT133) Tbred B core CPU @2400MHz (24x100FSB)
http://mysite.verizon.net/res0exft/cpu.htm

Grew
November 28th 04, 04:19 PM
It is not just that article but large numbers of people, like me, who have
bought the A64 3000+ S939 and overclocked it. So far, on cheapish RAM and
using the AMD cooler, I am running at 2.4GHz - that is a 3800+. In pushing
the cpu using Clockgen, I had it running stable at 2520 with no extra juice
to it. I think I could have gone higher. Don't be put off - the chances of
frying it are small: oc properly and you'll be fine. In a year or so, there
will be faster cpus for much less. Buying say an MSI K8N Neo2 or one of the
newer NF4 boards will give you a good upgrade path for faster cpus.


"Ivronovich" > wrote in message
news:[email protected]
>I was thinking about getting the 3500 socket 939, but then read an article
>(URL below) saying that the 3000 could reach 2.6 ghz when over-clocked, the
>same as the 3500. That being the case, what would be the advantage to
>buying the 3500+? Would over-clocking the 3000 shorten the life of the
>chip?
>
> thank you for all inputs
>
>

Ivronovich
November 28th 04, 08:40 PM
Thanks for all the responses, and sorry for the delayed response on my part.
Although I don't really have a problem with overclocking on chips that prove
to be stable at higher speeds (as, by all accounts seems to be the case with
these two chips), and after much consideration (including this thread), I
will most likely go with the higher rated CPU simply because I will be using
the hardware in testing scenarios and overclocked chips will invalidate the
tests.

Thanks again for all inputs,
Ivron


"Ivronovich" > wrote in message
news:[email protected]
>I was thinking about getting the 3500 socket 939, but then read an article
>(URL below) saying that the 3000 could reach 2.6 ghz when over-clocked, the
>same as the 3500. That being the case, what would be the advantage to
>buying the 3500+? Would over-clocking the 3000 shorten the life of the
>chip?
>
> thank you for all inputs
>
>