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Janet venus
November 10th 04, 11:07 AM
This I think will work for most people.

1. Change your Telephone Company Back To Telstra
2. Check will Telstra how much demand their is in you area. That you can do
on the bigpond website by typing in the search up the top ADSL DEMAND.
3. Check if you then can get it. That's on the bigpond website.
4. If you can get it then apply for it.
5. (OPTIONAL) If you don't want bigpond as your internet provider just
change your ISP.

Internet service providers

Roma 27
November 10th 04, 12:55 PM
Ok ****o, here's some insights into your idea:
1. Usually when someone tries to sound genuine in order to scam people,
they have a decent grasp of language. You seem to be a bit indecisive as
to which words need capitalisation or not, and have yet to figure out
when to use there/their/they're.
2. Telstra is a company infamous for ripping off people who don't know
the first thing about technology. Like the phrase "everyone buys their
(not there) second bike from a bike shop" <-- because they quickly
figure out it's better to get something decent from people who know what
they're talking about.
3. Telstra is notoriously slow in rolling out broadband technology - so
much so that Australian internet speeds are about that of Nth America
and Europe 5 years ago (at triple the cost).
4. Telstra is quite keen on 18 month contracts. Your optional switch you
mention at the end would require incurring a fee of multiple hundreds of
dollars. On top of that Telstra's plans charge $0.15/mb for excess
downloads - that's $150/gb at 256kbps. AND if you were lucky enough to
change without any other fees, it's $99 flat rate to provision a phone
line/change ISPs through Telstra (who have a monopoly on the
infrastructure).
5. While in theory demand will bring supply, you'd need at least 100
people per exchange to make Telstra take notice. Since they have been
driving their broadband offers so hard, you'd find nearly every exchange
that is capable of carrying xDSL has been enabled. The technology that
Telstra employs restricts them from offering ADSL to anyone who lives
further than 3km from an exchange. To summarise: even if 50 people near
the one exchange read this spam and took it seriously, chances are if
they can't get it now, they won't be able to get it still.
6. You don't need to change to Telstra for your phone service to get
their broadband.
7. Though your message is on behalf of "Internet service providers" your
email address is a personal one, and a Telstra Bigpond one no less. Is
this spam a part of a negotiated cheaper deal with Telstra?


Sorry about the rant, but I am really sick of Telstra preying on people
who don't know a lot about the technology it is selling. I have friends
locked into long contracts who are desperately unhappy with Telstra's
service but they have to deal with it due to the restrictive contract.
If you do really want to get broadband in Australia, go to
whirlpool.org, who review all companies, plans and technologies in the
Australian broadband market.


Janet venus wrote:
> This I think will work for most people.
>
> 1. Change your Telephone Company Back To Telstra
> 2. Check will Telstra how much demand their is in you area. That you can do
> on the bigpond website by typing in the search up the top ADSL DEMAND.
> 3. Check if you then can get it. That's on the bigpond website.
> 4. If you can get it then apply for it.
> 5. (OPTIONAL) If you don't want bigpond as your internet provider just
> change your ISP.
>
> Internet service providers
>
>

Blaedmon
November 10th 04, 06:18 PM
Go Roma ;) I second, third, and fourth your rant. When I was a broadband
noob I went Telstra Satellite (nothing else around back then for my area)
and man did that cost $$$. Never again will my packets grace a Telstra line.
They still owe me $24 also.. which they've been telling me for like a year
now. Wasting paper quite ingeniously.

"Roma 27" > wrote in message
...
> Ok ****o, here's some insights into your idea:
> 1. Usually when someone tries to sound genuine in order to scam people,
> they have a decent grasp of language. You seem to be a bit indecisive as
> to which words need capitalisation or not, and have yet to figure out
> when to use there/their/they're.
> 2. Telstra is a company infamous for ripping off people who don't know
> the first thing about technology. Like the phrase "everyone buys their
> (not there) second bike from a bike shop" <-- because they quickly
> figure out it's better to get something decent from people who know what
> they're talking about.
> 3. Telstra is notoriously slow in rolling out broadband technology - so
> much so that Australian internet speeds are about that of Nth America
> and Europe 5 years ago (at triple the cost).
> 4. Telstra is quite keen on 18 month contracts. Your optional switch you
> mention at the end would require incurring a fee of multiple hundreds of
> dollars. On top of that Telstra's plans charge $0.15/mb for excess
> downloads - that's $150/gb at 256kbps. AND if you were lucky enough to
> change without any other fees, it's $99 flat rate to provision a phone
> line/change ISPs through Telstra (who have a monopoly on the
> infrastructure).
> 5. While in theory demand will bring supply, you'd need at least 100
> people per exchange to make Telstra take notice. Since they have been
> driving their broadband offers so hard, you'd find nearly every exchange
> that is capable of carrying xDSL has been enabled. The technology that
> Telstra employs restricts them from offering ADSL to anyone who lives
> further than 3km from an exchange. To summarise: even if 50 people near
> the one exchange read this spam and took it seriously, chances are if
> they can't get it now, they won't be able to get it still.
> 6. You don't need to change to Telstra for your phone service to get
> their broadband.
> 7. Though your message is on behalf of "Internet service providers" your
> email address is a personal one, and a Telstra Bigpond one no less. Is
> this spam a part of a negotiated cheaper deal with Telstra?
>
>
> Sorry about the rant, but I am really sick of Telstra preying on people
> who don't know a lot about the technology it is selling. I have friends
> locked into long contracts who are desperately unhappy with Telstra's
> service but they have to deal with it due to the restrictive contract.
> If you do really want to get broadband in Australia, go to
> whirlpool.org, who review all companies, plans and technologies in the
> Australian broadband market.
>
>
> Janet venus wrote:
> > This I think will work for most people.
> >
> > 1. Change your Telephone Company Back To Telstra
> > 2. Check will Telstra how much demand their is in you area. That you can
do
> > on the bigpond website by typing in the search up the top ADSL DEMAND.
> > 3. Check if you then can get it. That's on the bigpond website.
> > 4. If you can get it then apply for it.
> > 5. (OPTIONAL) If you don't want bigpond as your internet provider just
> > change your ISP.
> >
> > Internet service providers
> >
> >

Hamman
November 10th 04, 09:38 PM
> Telstra employs restricts them from offering ADSL to anyone who lives
> further than 3km from an exchange.

Ouch, even in the UK we can get it 7km and upwards from the exchange now.
Hell, 1mbps is avalible at about 4km.

hamman

Gary Colligan
November 11th 04, 01:48 PM
Hamman wrote:
>> Telstra employs restricts them from offering ADSL to anyone who lives
>> further than 3km from an exchange.
>
> Ouch, even in the UK we can get it 7km and upwards from the exchange
> now. Hell, 1mbps is avalible at about 4km.
>
> hamman

I have no problem the exchange is 300m down the road & I can see from my
computer room window ;)