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dfgr
July 16th 04, 07:56 PM
why don't you check 3dmark website for 3000+ amd cpu benchmark?

"Byron Hinson" > wrote in message
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> Currently I am on a AMD 2100+ CPU system, with Radeon 9600XT graphics
card -
> I get about 3700 mark in 3D Mark 2003. I am considering buying a PC that
has
> an AMD 64 3000+ chip in it - will I notice a major performance jump?
>
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Byron Hinson
July 16th 04, 08:05 PM
Currently I am on a AMD 2100+ CPU system, with Radeon 9600XT graphics card -
I get about 3700 mark in 3D Mark 2003. I am considering buying a PC that has
an AMD 64 3000+ chip in it - will I notice a major performance jump?

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rms
July 16th 04, 09:24 PM
Remember that the HalfLife2 makers are saying that what matters is the
videocard. A 6800GT or X800XT would be smarter purchases.

rms

Pseudo Namen
July 16th 04, 11:58 PM
"rms" > wrote in message
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> Remember that the HalfLife2 makers are saying that what matters is the
> videocard. A 6800GT or X800XT would be smarter purchases.
>
> rms
>
>

Naw, that is overkill. You can get a mobo & 3200+ 64bit AMD chip for 2 to 3
hundred dollars less than the cost of either of those. I have a benchmark
of 14,566 with my 3200+ AMD chip + ATI 9600XT card.

Carl Gurgan
July 17th 04, 12:03 AM
"Byron Hinson" > wrote in message
...
> Currently I am on a AMD 2100+ CPU system, with Radeon 9600XT graphics
card -
> I get about 3700 mark in 3D Mark 2003. I am considering buying a PC that
has
> an AMD 64 3000+ chip in it - will I notice a major performance jump?

yes

Larry Gagnon
July 17th 04, 02:44 AM
On Fri, 16 Jul 2004 19:05:39 +0000, Byron Hinson wrote:

> Currently I am on a AMD 2100+ CPU system, with Radeon 9600XT graphics card -
> I get about 3700 mark in 3D Mark 2003. I am considering buying a PC that has
> an AMD 64 3000+ chip in it - will I notice a major performance jump?

Not unless you switch to Linux! ;-)

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Michael Brown
July 17th 04, 02:49 AM
Larry Gagnon wrote:
> On Fri, 16 Jul 2004 19:05:39 +0000, Byron Hinson wrote:
>
>> Currently I am on a AMD 2100+ CPU system, with Radeon 9600XT
>> graphics card - I get about 3700 mark in 3D Mark 2003. I am
>> considering buying a PC that has an AMD 64 3000+ chip in it - will
>> I notice a major performance jump?
>
> Not unless you switch to Linux! ;-)

Actually, he'll notice a big performance drop if he goes to Linux. ATI's
Linux drivers are absolutely hopeless. Instant lockups on my SMP system,
memory leaks and terrible performance (9800SE runs UT only marginally faster
than a GF2MX) on my uniprocessor system, and they don't have any 64-bit
drivers. So, yeah, ATI + 32-bit Linux = bad, ATI + 64-bit Linux = no go :(

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Jerry McBride
July 17th 04, 04:41 PM
Michael Brown wrote:

> Larry Gagnon wrote:
>> On Fri, 16 Jul 2004 19:05:39 +0000, Byron Hinson wrote:
>>
>>> Currently I am on a AMD 2100+ CPU system, with Radeon 9600XT
>>> graphics card - I get about 3700 mark in 3D Mark 2003. I am
>>> considering buying a PC that has an AMD 64 3000+ chip in it - will
>>> I notice a major performance jump?
>>
>> Not unless you switch to Linux! ;-)
>
> Actually, he'll notice a big performance drop if he goes to Linux. ATI's
> Linux drivers are absolutely hopeless. Instant lockups on my SMP system,
> memory leaks and terrible performance (9800SE runs UT only marginally
> faster than a GF2MX) on my uniprocessor system, and they don't have any
> 64-bit drivers. So, yeah, ATI + 32-bit Linux = bad, ATI + 64-bit Linux =
> no go :(
>

Without arguing the point, aside from gaming problems on your system... what
he will gain is system performance like he's never, ever imagined. A 64 bit
linux desktop, is a real performer bar none. Not even the win 64 beta comes
close.

If he's suck in windows because of windows games.... then simply setup a
dual booting desktop. I'd wager a bet that he'd eventually stop booting
into windows before long.

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Byron Hinson
July 18th 04, 09:27 PM
Well I went with the AMD 64 3000 and an ATI X800 Pro - everything seems far
better so far!

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Marcio Esper
July 27th 04, 02:21 PM
On Fri, 16 Jul 2004 19:05:39 +0000, Byron Hinson wrote:

> Currently I am on a AMD 2100+ CPU system, with Radeon 9600XT graphics card -
> I get about 3700 mark in 3D Mark 2003. I am considering buying a PC that has
> an AMD 64 3000+ chip in it - will I notice a major performance jump?

I use an 3000+ with MSI K8T Neo with promise raid sata working in 2260MHz
, it is very fast and easy to overclock, no problem, no crash, a real grey
supercomputer :)

from login the kde boot in less than 2.5s using the mdk 86_64 :)
some programs like kpovmodeler, evolution , gimp etc start imediately, you
click the menu the program open like a flah if you not look with very
atention you miss the splash screen :)

Cya,

Marcio

flossie
July 28th 04, 08:10 PM
"Marcio Esper" > wrote in message
.. .
> On Fri, 16 Jul 2004 19:05:39 +0000, Byron Hinson wrote:
>
> > Currently I am on a AMD 2100+ CPU system, with Radeon 9600XT graphics
card -
> > I get about 3700 mark in 3D Mark 2003. I am considering buying a PC that
has
> > an AMD 64 3000+ chip in it - will I notice a major performance jump?
>
> I use an 3000+ with MSI K8T Neo with promise raid sata working in 2260MHz
> , it is very fast and easy to overclock, no problem, no crash, a real grey
> supercomputer :)
>
> from login the kde boot in less than 2.5s using the mdk 86_64 :)
> some programs like kpovmodeler, evolution , gimp etc start imediately, you
> click the menu the program open like a flah if you not look with very
> atention you miss the splash screen :)
>
> Cya,
>
> Marcio


why not try posting in " alt.os.linux.mandrake" to get back more detailed
information on your Linux Woes.

Doug Lynn
August 15th 04, 06:41 PM
Hi, would say you would notice about 50% increase in cpu speed. You would
notice it. I noticed a gaming improvement going from xp 2800 to 64 3200+


www.lynncomp.com

"Byron Hinson" > wrote in message
...
> Currently I am on a AMD 2100+ CPU system, with Radeon 9600XT graphics
> card -
> I get about 3700 mark in 3D Mark 2003. I am considering buying a PC that
> has
> an AMD 64 3000+ chip in it - will I notice a major performance jump?
>
> --
> Byron Hinson
> Microsoft MVP
> ActiveWin - Windows Site: http://www.activewin.com
> Designer Dream: http://www.designerdream.co.uk
>
>

JK
August 15th 04, 06:49 PM
Notice the differences in Doom 3.

http://www.anandtech.com/cpuchipsets/showdoc.aspx?i=2149&p=7

Check out this link as well.

http://www.anandtech.com/cpuchipsets/showdoc.aspx?i=2065&p=1



Doug Lynn wrote:

> Hi, would say you would notice about 50% increase in cpu speed. You would
> notice it. I noticed a gaming improvement going from xp 2800 to 64 3200+
>
> www.lynncomp.com
>
> "Byron Hinson" > wrote in message
> ...
> > Currently I am on a AMD 2100+ CPU system, with Radeon 9600XT graphics
> > card -
> > I get about 3700 mark in 3D Mark 2003. I am considering buying a PC that
> > has
> > an AMD 64 3000+ chip in it - will I notice a major performance jump?
> >
> > --
> > Byron Hinson
> > Microsoft MVP
> > ActiveWin - Windows Site: http://www.activewin.com
> > Designer Dream: http://www.designerdream.co.uk
> >
> >