"Wes Newell" > schrieb im Newsbeitrag
> On Tue, 20 Jul 2004 22:56:51 +0200, HPM-Computer wrote:
> > What a friendly answer ;)
> I'm not here to make friends or enemies. I just like to see correct
> answers. You didn't provide one. That simple really.
Please stop to scary people with your naive statements. There are lots of
people out there who use the original boxed cooler by AMD without additional
cooling. It is no problem to run an Athlon64 at temperatures below 75 C.
Roger, Over and Out!
> > "Wes Newell" > schrieb im Newsbeitrag
> > news:[email protected]
> >> On Tue, 20 Jul 2004 11:05:33 +0200, HPM-Computer wrote:
> >> > I don't trust any of the thousands temperature sonsors on my
> >> > motherboard (MSI K8T-Neo). BIOS shows idle temperature of 55 C just
> >> > after start. MSI Core Center shows 48 C at idle mode (65 C at full
> >> > load) and
> > Mottherboard
> >> > Monitor 5 shows 42 C at idle (59 C at full load).
> >> >
> >> And all these different readings are taken from the same sensor? Do you
> >> know anything about sensor chips?
> > Yes indeed: W83697HF..and yes...I know a little bit about
> > sensorchips...not that it is a very interesting topic, but...
> >> > Fact is that I don't give a thing about CPU temperature as long as
> >> > there aren't any lockdowns or graphic arrors. AMD 64 CPUs can hold up
> >> > to 85 C and anything below 75 should be a no-worry!
> >> >
> >> The only "fact" I can determine from this is that you really don't know
> >> the facts..BTW, my boards cpu sensor comes off the diode setting of
> >> sensor1 of the IT8705F chip. Now if you don't know where yours comes
> >> from, then you don't really know if any of your temps are correct. Oh
> >> yeah, I had to set the proper sensor in MBM. S755MAX MB.
> > Cool, so you know how to spot your mainboard on a list provieded by
> > MBM5+. That is nbot very difficult and was done by me as well.
> There you go again with the wrong answer. If you check the MBM MB list,
> you won't find my board listed on it (unless it's been added in the last
> couple of days). It's a Jetway S755MAX. Now go look. If you had looked
> first, you could have saved yourself some embarrassment. This might ****
> you off, but you represent one of the main reasons I even bother with
> NG's. People that come in and state crap as facts.
> > Another interesting fact is, that you don't know anything about modern
> > mainboards (I don't think the Abit KT7 is a brandnew one..I think I've
> > had a KT7 myself back in the ol' days of manually searching for
> > sensorchips. Fact is that the MSI K8T-Neo does have a featured software
> > called "Core Center" which uses, guess which, the same ol' sensorchip
> > than MBM5+ does when you choose the K8T-Neo FSR, the W83697HF. The fact
> > that I was speaking about in my first post was that MBM5+ and MSI Core
> > Center show different temperatures although using the same chip.
> Why are you even mentioning the KT7. I gave those away over a year ago.
> I only keep it in my sig line to show people that the KT133 chipset is not
> a limiting factor in upgrading the CPU, as all the manufactures sate they
> won't work with XP cpu's. I'm currently using the A64 which should have
> been obvious from my previous post of the A64 MB I'm using. You really
> don't pay much attention do you. As for your board, I really don't care.
> it was your statement about running the A64 at up 74C was why I replied.
> That's about the worst advice I've seen in here. And even though the CPU
> should shut down before it gets there, I felt I had to correct that before
> someone actually listened to your bad advice and left their cpu running at
> extremely high temps.
> >> Tcase max temp for A64 & FX is 70C.
> >> Tdie max temp for A64 Mobile is 95C.
> >> ref: AMD Athlon" 64 Processor Power and Thermal Data Sheet, 30430.pdf.
> > Absolutely right...in fact that your CPU won't last longer than 5-10
> > seconds with 95 C while at 85 C it is still capable of booting and
> > shutting down.
> I like your perserverence. Presented with the facts you try and turn them
> into your favor. But since you now seem to agree wirth this, how can you
> explain telling the OP not to worry as long as his temps are under 75C. I
> was going to quote it here, but it seems to have been edited out by one
> of us. I may have done it myself, but don't recall. I better go find it
> though.......Ok here it is.
> "Fact is that I don't give a thing about CPU temperature as long as there
> aren't any lockdowns or graphic arrors. AMD 64 CPUs can hold up to 85 C
> and anything below 75 should be a no-worry!"
> > Good luck for your overclocking experiments!
> I don't need luck, but thanks anyway. And to be honest, I really don't
> overclock, except to test. I actually underclock more than I overclock.
> Abit KT7-Raid (KT133) Tbred B core CPU @2400MHz (24x100FSB)