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William A. Leaphart
April 15th 04, 01:01 AM
I just ordered a 3200+ and an MSI (K8T NEO-FIS2R) board and now I'm
wondering what the beta 64 bit windows XP is like. Is it buggy and is it
worth using now? I downloaded the iso for 64 bit XP, used Nero to burn to a
cd but am I asking for problems? Thanks in advance. Roadkill

XS11E
April 15th 04, 01:50 AM
"William A. Leaphart" <endspamATcomcast.net> wrote in
:

> I just ordered a 3200+ and an MSI (K8T NEO-FIS2R) board and now
> I'm wondering what the beta 64 bit windows XP is like. Is it buggy
> and is it worth using now? I downloaded the iso for 64 bit XP,
> used Nero to burn to a cd but am I asking for problems? Thanks in
> advance. Roadkill

It's missing drivers and lots of 32 bit software won't run on it. I'd
use two HDs in removable bays or, if that's not an option, I'd install
a dual boot system with the XP 64 beta to play with and an older
version of Windows (9x, ME, 2000 or XP) to do useful work.

BTW, FWIW, I personally dislike dual booting and will never consider
it, I'd suggest you look into removable bays and two harddrives.

Ed Light
April 15th 04, 02:32 AM
> BTW, FWIW, I personally dislike dual booting and will never consider
> it, I'd suggest you look into removable bays and two harddrives.

Use bootitng to make room for another partition, create it, and install win
64 there, then boot it or the old one.
When making the menu item for win 64 don't let it see other partitions.
http://bootitng.com
If you never send them the $30, someday it will begin doing a one-minute
beep at startup.

It also images

In fact, it does dual-booting, but I'm shy of that myself.

Oh, and it can boot XP from a slave!
--
Ed Light

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Ian Smythe
April 15th 04, 08:48 PM
William A. Leaphart wrote:
> I just ordered a 3200+ and an MSI (K8T NEO-FIS2R) board and now I'm
> wondering what the beta 64 bit windows XP is like. Is it buggy and is it
> worth using now? I downloaded the iso for 64 bit XP, used Nero to burn to a
> cd but am I asking for problems? Thanks in advance. Roadkill
>
> My AMD64 is not my only computer. I downloaded XP64 and run it, thats it.
No dual booting. It runs very well for a beta. A good site to visit is
Planet AMD64.com. They keep up with all the new programs that will run
both 32 and 64 bit. I just posted that PC-Wizard 2004 which can be
downloaded at cpuid.com/ is for the AMD64 and apparently runs very
well, at least in my opinion. They also list drivers that are
available. :-)

Wayne Wastier
April 15th 04, 10:34 PM
XS11E, you are missing out on some good stuff then. I dual boot now, and
when my new mobo and cpu get here, I will triple boot. I love Windows XP
Pro, and Mandrake 10. Soon I will have XP Pro, XP 64 (AMD), and Mandrake 10
AMD64. (beta 2)


Wayne


"XS11E" > wrote in message
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> "William A. Leaphart" <endspamATcomcast.net> wrote in
> :
>
>> I just ordered a 3200+ and an MSI (K8T NEO-FIS2R) board and now
>> I'm wondering what the beta 64 bit windows XP is like. Is it buggy
>> and is it worth using now? I downloaded the iso for 64 bit XP,
>> used Nero to burn to a cd but am I asking for problems? Thanks in
>> advance. Roadkill
>
> It's missing drivers and lots of 32 bit software won't run on it. I'd
> use two HDs in removable bays or, if that's not an option, I'd install
> a dual boot system with the XP 64 beta to play with and an older
> version of Windows (9x, ME, 2000 or XP) to do useful work.
>
> BTW, FWIW, I personally dislike dual booting and will never consider
> it, I'd suggest you look into removable bays and two harddrives.
>

XS11E
April 15th 04, 11:44 PM
"Wayne Wastier" > wrote in
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> XS11E, you are missing out on some good stuff then.

I'm missing nothing, my computer is for doing work, not fun. There's
NOTHING fun or enjoyable about a computer, they are a necessary evil.
While I'm trying to make something work there are books to be read,
walks to be taken, rides to go on, etc. etc. etc.

To me, every minute behind the keyboard is a minute wasted.

Wayne Wastier
April 16th 04, 12:23 AM
"XS11E" > wrote in message
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> "Wayne Wastier" > wrote in
> :
>
>> XS11E, you are missing out on some good stuff then.
>
> I'm missing nothing, my computer is for doing work, not fun. There's
> NOTHING fun or enjoyable about a computer, they are a necessary evil.
> While I'm trying to make something work there are books to be read,
> walks to be taken, rides to go on, etc. etc. etc.
>
> To me, every minute behind the keyboard is a minute wasted.
>

BLASPHEMY!!!! BLASPHEMY!!!!

ROFLOL


Wayne

Roy Coorne
April 16th 04, 02:01 PM
XS11E wrote:

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>
> To me, every minute behind the keyboard is a minute wasted.
>

Bye, bye...

GW De Lacey
April 18th 04, 06:45 AM
On Thu, 15 Apr 2004 15:44:01 -0700, XS11E wrote:

>"Wayne Wastier" wrote...

>> XS11E, you are missing out on some good stuff then.

[..]

>To me, every minute behind the keyboard is a minute wasted.

Amen to that, but how on earth does anyone get time to smell the roses
and such. I mean, as soon as you get a system into shape so that you
can do real work, someone else decides that the latest and greatest is
the way to go. Then the circus starts again.
Not for me though - I'm still using P111 stuff, and now I want an
update that will last 10 years. I'll bet I can do it too.

--
GW De Lacey

XS11E
April 19th 04, 01:13 AM
GW De Lacey > wrote in
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> On Thu, 15 Apr 2004 15:44:01 -0700, XS11E wrote:

>>To me, every minute behind the keyboard is a minute wasted.
>
> Amen to that, but how on earth does anyone get time to smell the
> roses and such. I mean, as soon as you get a system into shape so
> that you can do real work, someone else decides that the latest
> and greatest is the way to go. Then the circus starts again.
> Not for me though - I'm still using P111 stuff, and now I want an
> update that will last 10 years. I'll bet I can do it too.

After running Windows 2000 for a few months I decided I would go back
to NT 4.0 as it was smaller and much faster. However, I'd acquired a
Digital Camera that needed a USB port to send pics to the camera and a
USB photo printer so.... I spent more time than I should have trying to
get some way to make USB work in NT 4.0, finally gave it up.

But I'd STILL like to be able to run it!

George
May 13th 04, 04:06 AM
"XS11E" > wrote in message
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> "William A. Leaphart" <endspamATcomcast.net> wrote in
> :
>
> > I just ordered a 3200+ and an MSI (K8T NEO-FIS2R) board and now
> > I'm wondering what the beta 64 bit windows XP is like. Is it buggy
> > and is it worth using now? I downloaded the iso for 64 bit XP,
> > used Nero to burn to a cd but am I asking for problems? Thanks in
> > advance. Roadkill
>
> It's missing drivers and lots of 32 bit software won't run on it. I'd
> use two HDs in removable bays or, if that's not an option, I'd install
> a dual boot system with the XP 64 beta to play with and an older
> version of Windows (9x, ME, 2000 or XP) to do useful work.
>
> BTW, FWIW, I personally dislike dual booting and will never consider
> it, I'd suggest you look into removable bays and two harddrives.
>

Interesting. I'd personally disagree as I've never had even the slightest
problems with dual or even triple-booting. For a beginning sysadmin with
EXTREMELY LIMITED resources, multi-booting into Win98, Win2000, and RHL to
allow practice with & support for the OS I encountered upon arrival (and
desperately wanted to change), the OS I later moved the hotel to, and the OS
I considered for a potential mail server, was a godsend. I now dual boot
into Win 2000 and XP Pro (the one we're on and the one we're migrating to)
at work, and will be setting up my personal (gaming) PC in XP Pro and 64 at
home. Likewise, although I'm not quite the beginner I was three years ago,
I'm probably going to dual (or even triple) boot another of my machines into
Win 2000 Server, Win 2003 Server, and possibly Fedora.

While I don't know what difficulties might arise in multi-booting server
OS's, I do know that several of my friends have done this quite
successfully.

But if it doesn't work for you, I totally respect that; everyone's got a
different opinion, after all, and my just differs from yours (and mine
probably has a good deal experience behind it).