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James
September 24th 04, 12:02 AM
Hi
Am about to order a new card, possibly this one:
http://www.ebuyer.com/customer/products/index.html?action=c2hvd19wcm9kdWN0X292ZXJ2aWV3&product_uid=66215

but can someone tell me, when pci-express comes out, will this card support
it???? Are there any 6800 nvidea cards on the market that do support the
upcoming pci-e?

Thanks
Chris

J. Clarke
September 24th 04, 02:46 AM
James wrote:

> Hi
> Am about to order a new card, possibly this one:
>
http://www.ebuyer.com/customer/products/index.html?action=c2hvd19wcm9kdWN0X292ZXJ2aWV3&product_uid=66215
>
> but can someone tell me, when pci-express comes out, will this card
> support it???? Are there any 6800 nvidea cards on the market that do
> support the upcoming pci-e?

PCI Express has been out for months. If you buy a PCI Express 6800 it will
work with PCI Express but not with AGP. If you buy an AGP 6800 it will
work with AGP but not with PCI Express. The board you are looking at is
AGP. It will not work with PCI Express. There are no motherboards with
both AGP and PCI Express.

If you buy a PCI Express 6800 and do not have a motherboard with a PCI
Express X16 slot then you will not be able to use it.

> Thanks
> Chris

--
--John
Reply to jclarke at ae tee tee global dot net
(was jclarke at eye bee em dot net)

Tom
September 24th 04, 05:36 AM
Well....there is one that supports both
http://www.ecs.com.tw/ECSWeb/Products/ProductsDetail.aspx?DetailID=471&MenuID=93&LanID=0
Hope that link works.
If not, its an ECS 915G-A

"J. Clarke" > wrote in message
...
> James wrote:
>
>> Hi
>> Am about to order a new card, possibly this one:
>>
> http://www.ebuyer.com/customer/products/index.html?action=c2hvd19wcm9kdWN0X292ZXJ2aWV3&product_uid=66215
>>
>> but can someone tell me, when pci-express comes out, will this card
>> support it???? Are there any 6800 nvidea cards on the market that do
>> support the upcoming pci-e?
>
> PCI Express has been out for months. If you buy a PCI Express 6800 it
> will
> work with PCI Express but not with AGP. If you buy an AGP 6800 it will
> work with AGP but not with PCI Express. The board you are looking at is
> AGP. It will not work with PCI Express. There are no motherboards with
> both AGP and PCI Express.
>
> If you buy a PCI Express 6800 and do not have a motherboard with a PCI
> Express X16 slot then you will not be able to use it.
>
>> Thanks
>> Chris
>
> --
> --John
> Reply to jclarke at ae tee tee global dot net
> (was jclarke at eye bee em dot net)

J. Clarke
September 24th 04, 06:55 AM
Tom wrote:

> Well....there is one that supports both
>
http://www.ecs.com.tw/ECSWeb/Products/ProductsDetail.aspx?DetailID=471&MenuID=93&LanID=0
> Hope that link works.
> If not, its an ECS 915G-A

That will be very cool if (a) they actually get it to market, and (b) it
works. Given the history of ECS, don't bet your life on either.

> "J. Clarke" > wrote in message
> ...
>> James wrote:
>>
>>> Hi
>>> Am about to order a new card, possibly this one:
>>>
>>
http://www.ebuyer.com/customer/products/index.html?action=c2hvd19wcm9kdWN0X292ZXJ2aWV3&product_uid=66215
>>>
>>> but can someone tell me, when pci-express comes out, will this card
>>> support it???? Are there any 6800 nvidea cards on the market that do
>>> support the upcoming pci-e?
>>
>> PCI Express has been out for months. If you buy a PCI Express 6800 it
>> will
>> work with PCI Express but not with AGP. If you buy an AGP 6800 it will
>> work with AGP but not with PCI Express. The board you are looking at is
>> AGP. It will not work with PCI Express. There are no motherboards with
>> both AGP and PCI Express.
>>
>> If you buy a PCI Express 6800 and do not have a motherboard with a PCI
>> Express X16 slot then you will not be able to use it.
>>
>>> Thanks
>>> Chris
>>
>> --
>> --John
>> Reply to jclarke at ae tee tee global dot net
>> (was jclarke at eye bee em dot net)

--
--John
Reply to jclarke at ae tee tee global dot net
(was jclarke at eye bee em dot net)

J. Clarke
September 24th 04, 07:06 AM
John wrote:

> well no it wont as its an agp card, you need to wait for the 6600 to come
> out (which is almost about to be released) and you can hook 2 of them up
> together in sli mode.

When if ever someone actually ships a motherboard with two PCI Express x16
slots you may be able to do this.

> In effet 2 cards doing the business =)
> "James" > wrote in message
> ...
>> Hi
>> Am about to order a new card, possibly this one:
>>
>
http://www.ebuyer.com/customer/products/index.html?action=c2hvd19wcm9kdWN0X292ZXJ2aWV3&product_uid=66215
>>
>> but can someone tell me, when pci-express comes out, will this card
> support
>> it???? Are there any 6800 nvidea cards on the market that do support the
>> upcoming pci-e?
>>
>> Thanks
>> Chris
>>
>>

--
--John
Reply to jclarke at ae tee tee global dot net
(was jclarke at eye bee em dot net)

James
September 24th 04, 11:12 AM
Thanks for the info. Am going to wait and get a 6600 PCI-E. I just hope they
come out in a matter of weeks not months

Many thanks
Chris

"James" > wrote in message
...
> Hi
> Am about to order a new card, possibly this one:
>
http://www.ebuyer.com/customer/products/index.html?action=c2hvd19wcm9kdWN0X292ZXJ2aWV3&product_uid=66215
>
> but can someone tell me, when pci-express comes out, will this card
support
> it???? Are there any 6800 nvidea cards on the market that do support the
> upcoming pci-e?
>
> Thanks
> Chris
>
>

John Lewis
September 24th 04, 09:10 PM
On Fri, 24 Sep 2004 02:06:12 -0400, "J. Clarke"
> wrote:

>John wrote:
>
>> well no it wont as its an agp card, you need to wait for the 6600 to come
>> out (which is almost about to be released) and you can hook 2 of them up
>> together in sli mode.
>
>When if ever someone actually ships a motherboard with two PCI Express x16
>slots you may be able to do this.

Guess what ? The nVidia nForce4 chipset is intended to do just that.
No doubt will work perfectly with dual 6800 or 6600 PCI-Express in
SLI-configuration. nForce4 is due out at the end of this year. Save up
your shekels. That and the clean 64-bit x86 AMD support might be the
final straw that finally forces me out of the Intel camp for my next
PC build. Intel marketing/management have their heads in a proverbial
dark place. Don't blame the Intel design engineers.... I have personal
contacts with several and they are frustrated by the lack of clear
direction in Intel's x86 future development.

Also, I have fond memories of my 3dfx dual-SLI Voodoo 2
system. Worked great.

John Lewis

>> In effet 2 cards doing the business =)
>> "James" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> Hi
>>> Am about to order a new card, possibly this one:
>>>
>>
>http://www.ebuyer.com/customer/products/index.html?action=c2hvd19wcm9kdWN0X292ZXJ2aWV3&product_uid=66215
>>>
>>> but can someone tell me, when pci-express comes out, will this card
>> support
>>> it???? Are there any 6800 nvidea cards on the market that do support the
>>> upcoming pci-e?
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>> Chris
>>>
>>>
>
>--
>--John
>Reply to jclarke at ae tee tee global dot net
>(was jclarke at eye bee em dot net)

Tom
September 24th 04, 10:23 PM
it's available and in stock at www.outpost.com

"J. Clarke" > wrote in message
...
> Tom wrote:
>
>> Well....there is one that supports both
>>
> http://www.ecs.com.tw/ECSWeb/Products/ProductsDetail.aspx?DetailID=471&MenuID=93&LanID=0
>> Hope that link works.
>> If not, its an ECS 915G-A
>
> That will be very cool if (a) they actually get it to market, and (b) it
> works. Given the history of ECS, don't bet your life on either.
>
>> "J. Clarke" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> James wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi
>>>> Am about to order a new card, possibly this one:
>>>>
>>>
> http://www.ebuyer.com/customer/products/index.html?action=c2hvd19wcm9kdWN0X292ZXJ2aWV3&product_uid=66215
>>>>
>>>> but can someone tell me, when pci-express comes out, will this card
>>>> support it???? Are there any 6800 nvidea cards on the market that do
>>>> support the upcoming pci-e?
>>>
>>> PCI Express has been out for months. If you buy a PCI Express 6800 it
>>> will
>>> work with PCI Express but not with AGP. If you buy an AGP 6800 it will
>>> work with AGP but not with PCI Express. The board you are looking at is
>>> AGP. It will not work with PCI Express. There are no motherboards with
>>> both AGP and PCI Express.
>>>
>>> If you buy a PCI Express 6800 and do not have a motherboard with a PCI
>>> Express X16 slot then you will not be able to use it.
>>>
>>>> Thanks
>>>> Chris
>>>
>>> --
>>> --John
>>> Reply to jclarke at ae tee tee global dot net
>>> (was jclarke at eye bee em dot net)
>
> --
> --John
> Reply to jclarke at ae tee tee global dot net
> (was jclarke at eye bee em dot net)

J. Clarke
September 24th 04, 10:48 PM
Tom wrote:

> it's available and in stock at www.outpost.com

Interesting. Now, does it work any better than the rest of the ECS line?

> "J. Clarke" > wrote in message
> ...
>> Tom wrote:
>>
>>> Well....there is one that supports both
>>>
>>
http://www.ecs.com.tw/ECSWeb/Products/ProductsDetail.aspx?DetailID=471&MenuID=93&LanID=0
>>> Hope that link works.
>>> If not, its an ECS 915G-A
>>
>> That will be very cool if (a) they actually get it to market, and (b) it
>> works. Given the history of ECS, don't bet your life on either.
>>
>>> "J. Clarke" > wrote in message
>>> ...
>>>> James wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi
>>>>> Am about to order a new card, possibly this one:
>>>>>
>>>>
>>
http://www.ebuyer.com/customer/products/index.html?action=c2hvd19wcm9kdWN0X292ZXJ2aWV3&product_uid=66215
>>>>>
>>>>> but can someone tell me, when pci-express comes out, will this card
>>>>> support it???? Are there any 6800 nvidea cards on the market that do
>>>>> support the upcoming pci-e?
>>>>
>>>> PCI Express has been out for months. If you buy a PCI Express 6800 it
>>>> will
>>>> work with PCI Express but not with AGP. If you buy an AGP 6800 it will
>>>> work with AGP but not with PCI Express. The board you are looking at
>>>> is
>>>> AGP. It will not work with PCI Express. There are no motherboards
>>>> with both AGP and PCI Express.
>>>>
>>>> If you buy a PCI Express 6800 and do not have a motherboard with a PCI
>>>> Express X16 slot then you will not be able to use it.
>>>>
>>>>> Thanks
>>>>> Chris
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> --John
>>>> Reply to jclarke at ae tee tee global dot net
>>>> (was jclarke at eye bee em dot net)
>>
>> --
>> --John
>> Reply to jclarke at ae tee tee global dot net
>> (was jclarke at eye bee em dot net)

--
--John
Reply to jclarke at ae tee tee global dot net
(was jclarke at eye bee em dot net)

J. Clarke
September 24th 04, 10:50 PM
John Lewis wrote:

> On Fri, 24 Sep 2004 02:06:12 -0400, "J. Clarke"
> > wrote:
>
>>John wrote:
>>
>>> well no it wont as its an agp card, you need to wait for the 6600 to
>>> come out (which is almost about to be released) and you can hook 2 of
>>> them up together in sli mode.
>>
>>When if ever someone actually ships a motherboard with two PCI Express x16
>>slots you may be able to do this.
>
> Guess what ? The nVidia nForce4 chipset is intended to do just that.
> No doubt will work perfectly with dual 6800 or 6600 PCI-Express in
> SLI-configuration. nForce4 is due out at the end of this year. Save up
> your shekels. That and the clean 64-bit x86 AMD support might be the
> final straw that finally forces me out of the Intel camp for my next
> PC build.

If it all works as planned. And if motherboard manufacturers actually
implement the dual capability, and if there is actually enough performance
improvement to justify the cost.

> Intel marketing/management have their heads in a proverbial
> dark place. Don't blame the Intel design engineers.... I have personal
> contacts with several and they are frustrated by the lack of clear
> direction in Intel's x86 future development.
>
> Also, I have fond memories of my 3dfx dual-SLI Voodoo 2
> system. Worked great.
>
> John Lewis
>
>>> In effet 2 cards doing the business =)
>>> "James" > wrote in message
>>> ...
>>>> Hi
>>>> Am about to order a new card, possibly this one:
>>>>
>>>
>>http://www.ebuyer.com/customer/products/index.html?action=c2hvd19wcm9kdWN0X292ZXJ2aWV3&product_uid=66215
>>>>
>>>> but can someone tell me, when pci-express comes out, will this card
>>> support
>>>> it???? Are there any 6800 nvidea cards on the market that do support
>>>> the upcoming pci-e?
>>>>
>>>> Thanks
>>>> Chris
>>>>
>>>>
>>
>>--
>>--John
>>Reply to jclarke at ae tee tee global dot net
>>(was jclarke at eye bee em dot net)

--
--John
Reply to jclarke at ae tee tee global dot net
(was jclarke at eye bee em dot net)

John
September 25th 04, 12:22 AM
well no it wont as its an agp card, you need to wait for the 6600 to come
out (which is almost about to be released) and you can hook 2 of them up
together in sli mode. In effet 2 cards doing the business =)
"James" > wrote in message
...
> Hi
> Am about to order a new card, possibly this one:
>
http://www.ebuyer.com/customer/products/index.html?action=c2hvd19wcm9kdWN0X292ZXJ2aWV3&product_uid=66215
>
> but can someone tell me, when pci-express comes out, will this card
support
> it???? Are there any 6800 nvidea cards on the market that do support the
> upcoming pci-e?
>
> Thanks
> Chris
>
>

Tom
September 25th 04, 12:42 AM
hehe I doubt it. I've never been a fan. I just nvidia releases a top of
the line pci express card soon. I have 6800 ultra, but I'm due to upgrade
my whole system.
"J. Clarke" > wrote in message
...
> Tom wrote:
>
>> it's available and in stock at www.outpost.com
>
> Interesting. Now, does it work any better than the rest of the ECS line?
>
>> "J. Clarke" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> Tom wrote:
>>>
>>>> Well....there is one that supports both
>>>>
>>>
> http://www.ecs.com.tw/ECSWeb/Products/ProductsDetail.aspx?DetailID=471&MenuID=93&LanID=0
>>>> Hope that link works.
>>>> If not, its an ECS 915G-A
>>>
>>> That will be very cool if (a) they actually get it to market, and (b) it
>>> works. Given the history of ECS, don't bet your life on either.
>>>
>>>> "J. Clarke" > wrote in message
>>>> ...
>>>>> James wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi
>>>>>> Am about to order a new card, possibly this one:
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>
> http://www.ebuyer.com/customer/products/index.html?action=c2hvd19wcm9kdWN0X292ZXJ2aWV3&product_uid=66215
>>>>>>
>>>>>> but can someone tell me, when pci-express comes out, will this card
>>>>>> support it???? Are there any 6800 nvidea cards on the market that do
>>>>>> support the upcoming pci-e?
>>>>>
>>>>> PCI Express has been out for months. If you buy a PCI Express 6800 it
>>>>> will
>>>>> work with PCI Express but not with AGP. If you buy an AGP 6800 it
>>>>> will
>>>>> work with AGP but not with PCI Express. The board you are looking at
>>>>> is
>>>>> AGP. It will not work with PCI Express. There are no motherboards
>>>>> with both AGP and PCI Express.
>>>>>
>>>>> If you buy a PCI Express 6800 and do not have a motherboard with a PCI
>>>>> Express X16 slot then you will not be able to use it.
>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>> Chris
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> --John
>>>>> Reply to jclarke at ae tee tee global dot net
>>>>> (was jclarke at eye bee em dot net)
>>>
>>> --
>>> --John
>>> Reply to jclarke at ae tee tee global dot net
>>> (was jclarke at eye bee em dot net)
>
> --
> --John
> Reply to jclarke at ae tee tee global dot net
> (was jclarke at eye bee em dot net)

Minotaur
September 26th 04, 01:45 PM
J. Clarke wrote:
> John Lewis wrote:
>
>
>>On Fri, 24 Sep 2004 02:06:12 -0400, "J. Clarke"
> wrote:
>>
>>
>>>John wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>well no it wont as its an agp card, you need to wait for the 6600 to
>>>>come out (which is almost about to be released) and you can hook 2 of
>>>>them up together in sli mode.
>>>
>>>When if ever someone actually ships a motherboard with two PCI Express x16
>>>slots you may be able to do this.
>>
>>Guess what ? The nVidia nForce4 chipset is intended to do just that.
>>No doubt will work perfectly with dual 6800 or 6600 PCI-Express in
>>SLI-configuration. nForce4 is due out at the end of this year. Save up
>>your shekels. That and the clean 64-bit x86 AMD support might be the
>>final straw that finally forces me out of the Intel camp for my next
>>PC build.
>
>
> If it all works as planned. And if motherboard manufacturers actually
> implement the dual capability, and if there is actually enough performance
> improvement to justify the cost.

It shall work nForce4, why the doubt it won't?

Cost? True it is expensive, but 6 months down the line
when you wish to upgrade again. You can just go out and get another
graphics card, the same as you have now but marked down to clearance
prices. End result, would probably be faster than what is new at the
time anyway.
Unless they release 32 pipes in the next GPU released? or come out with
hyper-fast memory, but I doubt it.

>
>
>>Intel marketing/management have their heads in a proverbial
>>dark place. Don't blame the Intel design engineers.... I have personal
>>contacts with several and they are frustrated by the lack of clear
>>direction in Intel's x86 future development.
>>
>>Also, I have fond memories of my 3dfx dual-SLI Voodoo 2
>>system. Worked great.
>>
>>John Lewis
>>
>>
>>>>In effet 2 cards doing the business =)
>>>>"James" > wrote in message
...
>>>>
>>>>>Hi
>>>>>Am about to order a new card, possibly this one:
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>http://www.ebuyer.com/customer/products/index.html?action=c2hvd19wcm9kdWN0X292ZXJ2aWV3&product_uid=66215
>>>
>>>>>but can someone tell me, when pci-express comes out, will this card
>>>>
>>>>support
>>>>
>>>>>it???? Are there any 6800 nvidea cards on the market that do support
>>>>>the upcoming pci-e?
>>>>>
>>>>>Thanks
>>>>>Chris
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>
>>>--
>>>--John
>>>Reply to jclarke at ae tee tee global dot net
>>>(was jclarke at eye bee em dot net)
>
>

J. Clarke
September 26th 04, 03:01 PM
Minotaur wrote:

> J. Clarke wrote:
>> John Lewis wrote:
>>
>>
>>>On Fri, 24 Sep 2004 02:06:12 -0400, "J. Clarke"
> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>John wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>well no it wont as its an agp card, you need to wait for the 6600 to
>>>>>come out (which is almost about to be released) and you can hook 2 of
>>>>>them up together in sli mode.
>>>>
>>>>When if ever someone actually ships a motherboard with two PCI Express
>>>>x16 slots you may be able to do this.
>>>
>>>Guess what ? The nVidia nForce4 chipset is intended to do just that.
>>>No doubt will work perfectly with dual 6800 or 6600 PCI-Express in
>>>SLI-configuration. nForce4 is due out at the end of this year. Save up
>>>your shekels. That and the clean 64-bit x86 AMD support might be the
>>>final straw that finally forces me out of the Intel camp for my next
>>>PC build.
>>
>>
>> If it all works as planned. And if motherboard manufacturers actually
>> implement the dual capability, and if there is actually enough
>> performance improvement to justify the cost.
>
> It shall work nForce4, why the doubt it won't?

First generation PCI-E, first generation PCI-E from nvidia, first PCI-E
chipset for AMD, first generation SLI, need I say more?

> Cost? True it is expensive, but 6 months down the line
> when you wish to upgrade again.

Dunno about you, but I don't upgrade every six months.

> You can just go out and get another
> graphics card, the same as you have now but marked down to clearance
> prices. End result, would probably be faster than what is new at the
> time anyway.
> Unless they release 32 pipes in the next GPU released? or come out with
> hyper-fast memory, but I doubt it.
>
>>
>>
>>>Intel marketing/management have their heads in a proverbial
>>>dark place. Don't blame the Intel design engineers.... I have personal
>>>contacts with several and they are frustrated by the lack of clear
>>>direction in Intel's x86 future development.
>>>
>>>Also, I have fond memories of my 3dfx dual-SLI Voodoo 2
>>>system. Worked great.
>>>
>>>John Lewis
>>>
>>>
>>>>>In effet 2 cards doing the business =)
>>>>>"James" > wrote in message
...
>>>>>
>>>>>>Hi
>>>>>>Am about to order a new card, possibly this one:
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>http://www.ebuyer.com/customer/products/index.html?action=c2hvd19wcm9kdWN0X292ZXJ2aWV3&product_uid=66215
>>>>
>>>>>>but can someone tell me, when pci-express comes out, will this card
>>>>>
>>>>>support
>>>>>
>>>>>>it???? Are there any 6800 nvidea cards on the market that do support
>>>>>>the upcoming pci-e?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Thanks
>>>>>>Chris
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>--
>>>>--John
>>>>Reply to jclarke at ae tee tee global dot net
>>>>(was jclarke at eye bee em dot net)
>>
>>

--
--John
Reply to jclarke at ae tee tee global dot net
(was jclarke at eye bee em dot net)

John Lewis
September 28th 04, 04:13 PM
On Sun, 26 Sep 2004 10:01:15 -0400, "J. Clarke"
> wrote:

>Minotaur wrote:
>
>> J. Clarke wrote:
>>> John Lewis wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>On Fri, 24 Sep 2004 02:06:12 -0400, "J. Clarke"
> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>John wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>well no it wont as its an agp card, you need to wait for the 6600 to
>>>>>>come out (which is almost about to be released) and you can hook 2 of
>>>>>>them up together in sli mode.
>>>>>
>>>>>When if ever someone actually ships a motherboard with two PCI Express
>>>>>x16 slots you may be able to do this.
>>>>
>>>>Guess what ? The nVidia nForce4 chipset is intended to do just that.
>>>>No doubt will work perfectly with dual 6800 or 6600 PCI-Express in
>>>>SLI-configuration. nForce4 is due out at the end of this year. Save up
>>>>your shekels. That and the clean 64-bit x86 AMD support might be the
>>>>final straw that finally forces me out of the Intel camp for my next
>>>>PC build.
>>>
>>>
>>> If it all works as planned. And if motherboard manufacturers actually
>>> implement the dual capability, and if there is actually enough
>>> performance improvement to justify the cost.
>>
>> It shall work nForce4, why the doubt it won't?
>
>First generation PCI-E,

Works fine.

>first generation PCI-E from nvidia,

nVidia has demonstrated extreme competence in building
performance chip-sets for AMD processors.

> first PCI-E
>chipset for AMD,

Huh ? nVidia is developing the chip-set.

> first generation SLI, need I say more?
>

Er... nVidia have some past experience in this field.
The SLI functionality will be totally transparent to
the application. No doubt there will be some driver
bugs to kill.

Tilting at windmills ?

Certainly it would be prudent to wait for reviews from
trusted technical sources and wealthy "first-adopters"
before parting with any cash.

John Lewis

J. Clarke
September 28th 04, 05:55 PM
John Lewis wrote:

> On Sun, 26 Sep 2004 10:01:15 -0400, "J. Clarke"
> > wrote:
>
>>Minotaur wrote:
>>
>>> J. Clarke wrote:
>>>> John Lewis wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>On Fri, 24 Sep 2004 02:06:12 -0400, "J. Clarke"
> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>John wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>well no it wont as its an agp card, you need to wait for the 6600 to
>>>>>>>come out (which is almost about to be released) and you can hook 2 of
>>>>>>>them up together in sli mode.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>When if ever someone actually ships a motherboard with two PCI Express
>>>>>>x16 slots you may be able to do this.
>>>>>
>>>>>Guess what ? The nVidia nForce4 chipset is intended to do just that.
>>>>>No doubt will work perfectly with dual 6800 or 6600 PCI-Express in
>>>>>SLI-configuration. nForce4 is due out at the end of this year. Save up
>>>>>your shekels. That and the clean 64-bit x86 AMD support might be the
>>>>>final straw that finally forces me out of the Intel camp for my next
>>>>>PC build.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> If it all works as planned. And if motherboard manufacturers actually
>>>> implement the dual capability, and if there is actually enough
>>>> performance improvement to justify the cost.
>>>
>>> It shall work nForce4, why the doubt it won't?
>>
>>First generation PCI-E,
>
> Works fine.

Based on how many years of experience with it do you base that conclusion?

>>first generation PCI-E from nvidia,
>
> nVidia has demonstrated extreme competence in building
> performance chip-sets for AMD processors.

They have demonstrated no competence at all in building PCI-Express chipsets
for motherboards.

>> first PCI-E
>>chipset for AMD,
>
> Huh ? nVidia is developing the chip-set.

Your point being?

>> first generation SLI, need I say more?
>>
>
> Er... nVidia have some past experience in this field.
> The SLI functionality will be totally transparent to
> the application. No doubt there will be some driver
> bugs to kill.

The "SLI functionality" bears no relation whatsoever to previous products
that used a different technology having the same name. As for being
"totally transparent to the application", that claim is not uncommon.
Since they have not shipped product you have no way of knowing if they
deliver.

> Tilting at windmills ?

No, stating reasonable skepticism.

> Certainly it would be prudent to wait for reviews from
> trusted technical sources and wealthy "first-adopters"
> before parting with any cash.

Yes, it would. General rule, don't buy version 1 of _anything_.

> John Lewis

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