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KerplunKuK
February 18th 04, 04:39 AM
How much difference does a direct X 9 compatible video card make? Most
cards that I have been looking at only say direct X 8, however my current
card is DX8 yet I can run DX9 games on it. Will DX9 cards support DX9 to
some extent?

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PRIVATE1964
February 18th 04, 06:02 AM
>Will DX9 cards support DX9 to
>some extent?

I think you meant DX8 support DX9 right?

DirectX 8 cards can play games for DirectX 9 they just won't be able to do the
the features that DirectX 9 cards can do.

Bora Ugurlu
February 19th 04, 12:16 PM
Am Thu, 19 Feb 2004 00:11:27 GMT, "DaveW" > schrieb:

>When you're running DX9 games with a DX8 card, you're missing some of the
>visual effects.

Bull****, you miss none of the visual effects, if the card supports
DX8 fallback.. See my other post.

PRIVATE1964
February 19th 04, 03:34 PM
>Bull****, you miss none of the visual effects, if the card supports
>DX8 fallback.. See my other post.

Yes you do. Such as with Morrowind. If you have a DirectX 8 card the water
looks almost like real water. If you try playing the game with a DirectX 7 card
the water does not look as nice because its missing the DirectX 8 features that
make the water look realistic.

Dark Avenger
February 19th 04, 06:59 PM
Bora Ugurlu > wrote in message >...
> Am Thu, 19 Feb 2004 00:11:27 GMT, "DaveW" > schrieb:
>
> >When you're running DX9 games with a DX8 card, you're missing some of the
> >visual effects.
>
> Bull****, you miss none of the visual effects, if the card supports
> DX8 fallback.. See my other post.

?

Bull**** and if in the same sentence....come on you can do better!

It's a fact that a game with DX9 shaders will not show them on an DX8
card unless the game also has DX8 shaders.

Look at Max Payne II, look at the mirrors, if you have a DX9 card you
can see in the mirror your image... if you have a DX8 card there is no
mirror, only grey ...

Tal Fucus
February 19th 04, 09:16 PM
"Dark Avenger" > wrote in message
om...
> Bora Ugurlu > wrote in message
>...
> > Am Thu, 19 Feb 2004 00:11:27 GMT, "DaveW" > schrieb:
> >
> > >When you're running DX9 games with a DX8 card, you're missing some of
the
> > >visual effects.
> >
> > Bull****, you miss none of the visual effects, if the card supports
> > DX8 fallback.. See my other post.
>
> ?
>
> Bull**** and if in the same sentence....come on you can do better!
>
> It's a fact that a game with DX9 shaders will not show them on an DX8
> card unless the game also has DX8 shaders.
>
> Look at Max Payne II, look at the mirrors, if you have a DX9 card you
> can see in the mirror your image... if you have a DX8 card there is no
> mirror, only grey ...

I won't say you wrong (cause you don't ;-) but actually there is no need for
DX9 for this.
There where nice mirrors in SWAT 3, which is an old game, and I'm not sure
if it's DX7 or earlier.

Tal

PRIVATE1964
February 19th 04, 11:09 PM
>Look at Max Payne II, look at the mirrors, if you have a DX9 card you
>can see in the mirror your image... if you have a DX8 card there is no
>mirror, only grey ...

Another example besides the water in Morrowind is the water in Silent Hunter 2.
If it doesn't do the Direct X feature it will fall back but it won't look as
nice.

PRIVATE1964
February 19th 04, 11:17 PM
> won't say you wrong (cause you don't ;-) but actually there is no need for
>DX9 for this.
>There where nice mirrors in SWAT 3, which is an old game, and I'm not sure
>if it's DX7 or earlier.

Your confusing the question. There are ways around Direct X features that is
true, but what you end up with never be the same as having the actual Direct X
feature to begin with. It could be quality of the image and or speed of drawing
the Image.

Dark Avenger
February 20th 04, 04:06 AM
(PRIVATE1964) wrote in message >...
> >Look at Max Payne II, look at the mirrors, if you have a DX9 card you
> >can see in the mirror your image... if you have a DX8 card there is no
> >mirror, only grey ...
>
> Another example besides the water in Morrowind is the water in Silent Hunter 2.
> If it doesn't do the Direct X feature it will fall back but it won't look as
> nice.

Yup, And sure is that DX9 games will keep support for DX8 functions to
certain heights and offer DX8 shaders and alike. Though ofcourse, it's
not as nice as DX9 shaders.

DX9 shaders don't have to look nicer or more beautifull... indeed it
also can offer faster drawing versus DX8 shaders :-)