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MgM
February 14th 04, 01:18 PM
I'm planning to upgrade my Visiontek ti4600 to an MSI GF-5900-VTD 128.
Is this a good choice. Considering I don't want to spend alots of money.
It's 279.00 cad.

dnfy
February 14th 04, 06:24 PM
On Sat, 14 Feb 2004 07:18:27 -0500, "MgM" >
wrote:

>I'm planning to upgrade my Visiontek ti4600 to an MSI GF-5900-VTD 128.
>Is this a good choice. Considering I don't want to spend alots of money.
>It's 279.00 cad.
>
i'm also replacing my r9600 for gf fx 5900 by msi
which one have strainght of those:
gf fx 5900 td 128
gf fx 5900 vtd 128
gf fx 5900 sp vtd 128
is vtd tv in??
what is sp??
are they same or have a different clock??

maniac
February 14th 04, 06:34 PM
In ,
dnfy > typed:

> is vtd tv in??

Videoin | TV | DVI

> what is sp??

Super Pack. : )

> are they same or have a different clock??

The same. : ) I'm planning to buy FX5900 by MSI too. :D

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dnfy
February 14th 04, 06:41 PM
On Sat, 14 Feb 2004 17:34:43 GMT, "maniac" >
wrote:

>In ,
>dnfy > typed:
>
>> is vtd tv in??
>
>Videoin | TV | DVI
>
>> what is sp??
>
>Super Pack. : )
>
>> are they same or have a different clock??
>
>The same. : ) I'm planning to buy FX5900 by MSI too. :D

what exactly does super pack have and is that card best to buy??

Dark Avenger
February 14th 04, 08:54 PM
"MgM" > wrote in message >...
> I'm planning to upgrade my Visiontek ti4600 to an MSI GF-5900-VTD 128.
> Is this a good choice. Considering I don't want to spend alots of money.
> It's 279.00 cad.

The FX5900 Non Ultra... good choice!

Not directly MUCH faster in games but you'll find that raising AA or
Aniso higher can be done with much less performance loss!

John Lewis
February 15th 04, 01:18 AM
On Sat, 14 Feb 2004 07:18:27 -0500, "MgM" >
wrote:

>I'm planning to upgrade my Visiontek ti4600 to an MSI GF-5900-VTD 128.
>Is this a good choice. Considering I don't want to spend alots of money.
>It's 279.00 cad.
>

Make sure that it is NOT the 5900XT version !!! The 5900/128 non-XT
is no longer on the MSI website !

IMHO, MSI is a cheesy vendor. Any vendor that does not openly
state the GPU, Memory clock-speeds and other performance-critical
hard-number specs in the (so-called) Product Specs on their website
fits that bill for me. Of course, such vendors customarily also try to
hide an inferior hardware product behind "glossy" bundled software.

John Lewis

dnfy
February 15th 04, 02:09 PM
On Sat, 14 Feb 2004 16:20:09 -0500, Butterfield >
wrote:

>On Sat, 14 Feb 2004 17:34:43 GMT, "maniac" >
>wrote:
>
>>> what is sp??
>>
>>Super Pack. : )
>>
>>> are they same or have a different clock??
>>
>>The same. : )
>
>This is misinformation.
>SP has slower ram & clocked slower .
>V - Video in
>T - TV out
>D - DVI-I out (Can also do dual monitor with included adapter)
>R - Remote
>The last 3 numbers represents the RAM size in MB.
>
>So a VTD model can do video capture, while a TD model can't.
>SP version has 2.8ns RAMs and the memory clock was @ 750MHz while the
>TD was @ 2.6ns for 850MHz and Ultra @ 2.2ns for 850MHz.
>
>
>Gotta go...
>Butterfield

i'snt SP for superior product,how can card be superior with slower
clock??

dnfy
February 15th 04, 09:22 PM
>>i'snt SP for superior product,how can card be superior with slower
>>clock??
>
>Superior to which? What are you assuming?
>Why does XT mean faster for ATI and slower for NV??
>Don't get caught up in the marketing lingo. Show me specs.

yep SP stand for superior product in this case ,gf fx 5900 sp-vtd 128,
it's 26db Noise Level Cooling System .
supose to reduce noise of ventilator in some apps which aren't
demanding for gp
here is link and see for your self
this card is supose to be the boss of the msi gf fx 5900 serial
waiting for your opinion.....
and another thing,what do you think of
gainward fx power pack ultra 1200 xp 128 mb(5900 serial) which one is
better msi 5900 sp-vtd 128 or above gainward??

http://www.msi.com.tw/program/products/vga/vga/pro_vga_detail.php?UID=503


http://www.gainward.com/c-2.html

John Lewis
February 16th 04, 08:50 AM
On Sun, 15 Feb 2004 14:09:08 +0100, dnfy >
wrote:

>On Sat, 14 Feb 2004 16:20:09 -0500, Butterfield >
>wrote:
>
>>On Sat, 14 Feb 2004 17:34:43 GMT, "maniac" >
>>wrote:
>>
>>>> what is sp??
>>>
>>>Super Pack. : )
>>>
>>>> are they same or have a different clock??
>>>
>>>The same. : )
>>
>>This is misinformation.
>>SP has slower ram & clocked slower .
>>V - Video in
>>T - TV out
>>D - DVI-I out (Can also do dual monitor with included adapter)
>>R - Remote
>>The last 3 numbers represents the RAM size in MB.
>>
>>So a VTD model can do video capture, while a TD model can't.
>>SP version has 2.8ns RAMs and the memory clock was @ 750MHz while the
>>TD was @ 2.6ns for 850MHz and Ultra @ 2.2ns for 850MHz.
>>
>>
>>Gotta go...
>>Butterfield
>
>i'snt SP for superior product,how can card be superior with slower
>clock??

Actually SP means (in the case of Nvidia cards with this suffix):
Stinking P***poor.

And XT means eXtra Tacky

And MSI means Made (for) Stupid Idiots

........................................... who apparently can't read
specs since only regurgitated Nvidia Marketing
Hype (with the most important spec numbers deliberately
omitted) appear on the MSI web-site.

For example, see:-

http://www.msicomputer.com/product/vga/vga_detail.asp?model=FX5900XT-VTD128

and find the GPU and Memory Clock speeds in this so-called
Specification.

John Lewis

Darthy
February 16th 04, 11:55 AM
On Sat, 14 Feb 2004 07:18:27 -0500, "MgM" >
wrote:

>I'm planning to upgrade my Visiontek ti4600 to an MSI GF-5900-VTD 128.
>Is this a good choice. Considering I don't want to spend alots of money.
>It's 279.00 cad.


Very good card...


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