September 11th 03, 09:58 AM
"Dave" > wrote in message
> "tq96" > wrote in message
> > Back when 3DFX died and ATI was a joke, NVidia had a virtual monopoly on
> > the GPU market and cards like the GF3 were very expensive. Now we see
> > ATI has stepped up the plate and provided very good competition but
> > is a huge price difference between the 5900 Ultra and the 9800 Pro
> Even the 9800 can be usually clocked to Pro spec, though one would hardly
> notice much with anything but the fastest CPUs. Oh, and they take up one
> slot and don't weigh more than the sum of all your other peripherals
> either...you know, it reminds me a little of the Voodoo 5 vs. the GF2
> situation. What comes around...of course, it's really the beginning of the
> end if ATI sues Nvidia then assimilates what's left...
> > only a small performance differencial.
> Usually in ATI's favor, no less...and we won't talk about the infamous
> softmoddable 9500 non-Pro, seems to be made of unobtainium these days...
> It's as if NVidia's prices are
> > still in the monopoly era.
> (assemble soapbox)
> They are drifting (perhaps "d" should be replaced by "g"?) out of
> with their market, methinks. With the state of ATI drivers improving
> seemingly with every release, and Nvidia pulling questionable hijinks to
> look faster (while not yet fixing certain filtering issues, wonder why?),
> ATI is practically guaranteed a face-hugger's (think "Alien") liplock on
> hi-end this round. Who woulda thunk, given the last few product cycles
> before R300? If Nvidia's pricing was more competitive, who knows?
> The hi-end market isn't really where the profits are anyway,
> Nvidia is poised to bleed market share like Caesar on the Ides of March at
> this rate, something investors may want to consider, never mind the SEC
> investigation. Once they lose the bulk of the OEM deals, there goes the
> ballgame. Then that Intel chipset license might be essential for survival,
> though I doubt they'll step that far in it that this will be the case.
> all, nobody thinks ATI stayed solvent all those years based on the merits
> performance of their Rage Pro, I hope?
> Looks like ATI is a little bit better at remembering to bring a pack
> condoms before hopping into bed with the Devil, if info WRT Xbox deal is
> indication...we'll see what's what next round, provided Nvidia has the
> strength to pull their sore thumb out of the anterior singularity they've
> managed to create for themselves...for now, one word: "hubris".
> (soapbox breaks, too fat...)
Why pick on Nvidia? Both ATI and Nvidia's top end offerings cost 1/3 of the
cost of a new PC!
GPU's are now pushing performance limits as hard as the CPU. Do people think
it's strange that a top end PC CPU costs over £400?