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February 19th 06, 02:12 AM
Like it says, when will we stop seeing Opteron 165s one the price
lists? And, when it disappears off the charts, how much will an
Opteron 170 or higher cost at that time? Will prices continue to trend
steadily upward as supply dwindles, or would the prudent buyer be
smarter waiting for prices to go down instead of acquiring one now at
today's price? Opteron 170 $405 -- worth two 3500+s? Is it likely
that the Opteron 180 will drop in price to $128 shipped when AM2 is
unveiled (and, presumably, 3rdgen sckt 939 boards are still available
for very cheap)?

Conor
February 19th 06, 11:09 AM
In article om>,
says...
> Like it says, when will we stop seeing Opteron 165s one the price
> lists? And, when it disappears off the charts, how much will an
> Opteron 170 or higher cost at that time? Will prices continue to trend
> steadily upward as supply dwindles, or would the prudent buyer be
> smarter waiting for prices to go down instead of acquiring one now at
> today's price? Opteron 170 $405 -- worth two 3500+s? Is it likely
> that the Opteron 180 will drop in price to $128 shipped when AM2 is
> unveiled (and, presumably, 3rdgen sckt 939 boards are still available
> for very cheap)?
>
>
Why the hell do you want one? They're a server CPU. They're not going
to make your games run faster than a X2.

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Conor,

Same ****, different day.

Hellraiser
February 19th 06, 12:39 PM
>> Like it says, when will we stop seeing Opteron 165s one the price
>> lists? And, when it disappears off the charts, how much will an
>> Opteron 170 or higher cost at that time? Will prices continue to trend
>> steadily upward as supply dwindles, or would the prudent buyer be
>> smarter waiting for prices to go down instead of acquiring one now at
>> today's price? Opteron 170 $405 -- worth two 3500+s? Is it likely
>> that the Opteron 180 will drop in price to $128 shipped when AM2 is
>> unveiled (and, presumably, 3rdgen sckt 939 boards are still available
>> for very cheap)?
>>
>>
> Why the hell do you want one? They're a server CPU. They're not going
> to make your games run faster than a X2.

Yes they will, they have larger cache and can overclock very nicely indeed
:) Running an Opteron 144 here - normally clocks at 1.8Ghz, doing 2.7Ghz
stable!

Hellraiser.............>

Cal Vanize
February 19th 06, 04:06 PM
Conor wrote:

> In article om>,
> says...
>
>>Like it says, when will we stop seeing Opteron 165s one the price
>>lists? And, when it disappears off the charts, how much will an
>>Opteron 170 or higher cost at that time? Will prices continue to trend
>>steadily upward as supply dwindles, or would the prudent buyer be
>>smarter waiting for prices to go down instead of acquiring one now at
>>today's price? Opteron 170 $405 -- worth two 3500+s? Is it likely
>>that the Opteron 180 will drop in price to $128 shipped when AM2 is
>>unveiled (and, presumably, 3rdgen sckt 939 boards are still available
>>for very cheap)?
>>
>>
>
> Why the hell do you want one? They're a server CPU. They're not going
> to make your games run faster than a X2.


You might be thinking of the original series of Opteron socket 940
chips. These were designed for servers. The current batch of Denmark
and Venus Socket 939 Opterons are high-performance workstation or client
CPUs. They are of similar design to the San Diego Athlon 64s and Athlon
X2 Toledos but seem to run at slightly lower voltages and easily overclock.

The Opteron 165 is of particular interest because it is a 2 x 1mb cache
dual core CPU that can be very easily overclocked to > 2.7ghz. The
165's price is lower than the entry Athlon X2 CPU with the same cache
though the 165 has a lower clock speed. But if it can be easily oc'ed
to a fast speed, its basic clock speed doesn't matter much.

Conor
February 19th 06, 04:47 PM
In article >, Cal Vanize says...

> You might be thinking of the original series of Opteron socket 940
> chips. These were designed for servers. The current batch of Denmark
> and Venus Socket 939 Opterons are high-performance workstation or client
> CPUs. They are of similar design to the San Diego Athlon 64s and Athlon
> X2 Toledos but seem to run at slightly lower voltages and easily overclock.
>
> The Opteron 165 is of particular interest because it is a 2 x 1mb cache
> dual core CPU that can be very easily overclocked to > 2.7ghz. The
> 165's price is lower than the entry Athlon X2 CPU with the same cache
> though the 165 has a lower clock speed. But if it can be easily oc'ed
> to a fast speed, its basic clock speed doesn't matter much.
>
I stand corrected. Jeez, its getting hard to keep up with all the cores
nowadays.


--
Conor,

Same ****, different day.

February 19th 06, 11:26 PM
So, will prices on Dual Core S939 Opterons go down before retailers
exhaust their supplies. Although the rumor that AMD is discontinuing
production of Opteron 939s is likely false, it is founded on the rumor
that AMD has stopped shipping s939 Opterons to resellers & retailers.

How much will prices fall?

So, *when* should I buy my Opteron 175? Next month? June? September?

Douglas Bollinger
February 20th 06, 02:43 PM
On Sun, 19 Feb 2006 14:26:35 -0800, andrew.gullans wrote:

> So, will prices on Dual Core S939 Opterons go down before retailers
> exhaust their supplies. Although the rumor that AMD is discontinuing
> production of Opteron 939s is likely false, it is founded on the rumor
> that AMD has stopped shipping s939 Opterons to resellers & retailers.
>
> How much will prices fall?
>
> So, *when* should I buy my Opteron 175? Next month? June? September?

Try now. If you need it, get it. AMD had their regular price cut last
month and just had a big price drop on 940 pin Opteron dual-cores. I can't
imagine anything else will happen for a few months.

And just to show you I will put my money where my mouth is, I just
assembled a new Opteron 175 system a few days ago as an upgrade from my
aging dual MP2800 system. A Tyan K8E, 2 Gigs of ECC DDR-400 (non-reg) and
a Opteron 175. Very nice. Once I get the new video card I'll check, but I
believe the power consumption (and heat output) is less with the new
system which is nice because it certainly has more punch.

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