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edde
August 14th 05, 09:04 AM
I've been running a Leadtek 6600GT PCIE on an Asus A8N-SLI board for 6
months or more, and it's been flawless (100% stock speeds).
When the last Nvidia WHQL 77.xx driver set came out, I upgraded from 71.89.
I noticed random crashes when playing wmv video files, and GTA San Andreas
would often crash during the video cut scenes.
So, I went back to the 71.89's, and all has been fine.
I just upgraded again to Nvidia's new 77.77 drives, and sure enough within
the first day I got a corrupted desktop when playing a realvideo file (had
to restart computer), and now again today when playing a wmv file in media
player. Going back to 71.89 or earlier fixes all problems.
I guess WHQL doesn't mean a whole lot. The 77.xx drivers definately break
something with the video overlay with atleast my 6600GT.

edde
August 14th 05, 09:36 AM
It seems I'm not the only one.
The guy in this thread explains the exact same problem,
http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/archive/index.php/t-53307.html

The thing is, I use Sun Java as well. So the 77.xx series must not play nice
with Sun Java.
What other Java options are there?

"edde" > wrote in message
...
> I've been running a Leadtek 6600GT PCIE on an Asus A8N-SLI board for 6
> months or more, and it's been flawless (100% stock speeds).
> When the last Nvidia WHQL 77.xx driver set came out, I upgraded from
> 71.89.
> I noticed random crashes when playing wmv video files, and GTA San Andreas
> would often crash during the video cut scenes.
> So, I went back to the 71.89's, and all has been fine.
> I just upgraded again to Nvidia's new 77.77 drives, and sure enough within
> the first day I got a corrupted desktop when playing a realvideo file (had
> to restart computer), and now again today when playing a wmv file in media
> player. Going back to 71.89 or earlier fixes all problems.
> I guess WHQL doesn't mean a whole lot. The 77.xx drivers definately break
> something with the video overlay with atleast my 6600GT.
>

First of One
August 14th 05, 03:27 PM
On ATi cards, setting all the FSAA and AF options to "application
preference" lets the card play nice with Java. May be worth a try with the
nVidia 77.xx drivers as well.

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It can therefore be said that politics is war without
bloodshed while war is politics with bloodshed."


"edde" > wrote in message
...
> It seems I'm not the only one.
> The guy in this thread explains the exact same problem,
> http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/archive/index.php/t-53307.html
>
> The thing is, I use Sun Java as well. So the 77.xx series must not play
> nice with Sun Java.
> What other Java options are there?

edde
August 14th 05, 05:23 PM
Interesting.
That's only for the default profile I assume?

"First of One" > wrote in message
...
> On ATi cards, setting all the FSAA and AF options to "application
> preference" lets the card play nice with Java. May be worth a try with the
> nVidia 77.xx drivers as well.
>
> --
> "War is the continuation of politics by other means.
> It can therefore be said that politics is war without
> bloodshed while war is politics with bloodshed."
>
>
> "edde" > wrote in message
> ...
>> It seems I'm not the only one.
>> The guy in this thread explains the exact same problem,
>> http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/archive/index.php/t-53307.html
>>
>> The thing is, I use Sun Java as well. So the 77.xx series must not play
>> nice with Sun Java.
>> What other Java options are there?
>
>

Beowulf
August 14th 05, 06:14 PM
edde wrote:
> I've been running a Leadtek 6600GT PCIE on an Asus A8N-SLI board for 6
> months or more, and it's been flawless (100% stock speeds).
> When the last Nvidia WHQL 77.xx driver set came out, I upgraded from 71.89.
> I noticed random crashes when playing wmv video files, and GTA San Andreas
> would often crash during the video cut scenes.
> So, I went back to the 71.89's, and all has been fine.
> I just upgraded again to Nvidia's new 77.77 drives, and sure enough within
> the first day I got a corrupted desktop when playing a realvideo file (had
> to restart computer), and now again today when playing a wmv file in media
> player. Going back to 71.89 or earlier fixes all problems.
> I guess WHQL doesn't mean a whole lot. The 77.xx drivers definately break
> something with the video overlay with atleast my 6600GT.
>
>
Interesting. I'm using 77.72 on PNY G4 ti4800 with no problems.
WinXpsp2
Slackware Linux 10.1 (76.76)

DVD, DiVx, QT, wmv, etc all play fine. Games are ok, even older ones.

You should poke around and make sure various old driver components are
not still hanging around. Also, directx could be the problem. it never
did "play nice" with non-windows drivers and opengl. You may also
need to update you chipset drivers as well

edde
August 15th 05, 11:15 AM
Thanks for the reply.
No that isn't it. I have the latest nforce 4 chipset drivers, 6.66, and all
the latest drivers for other components. All games play fine, it's a video
related problem with the newer 77.xx drivers. As i posted above, others have
noted the same problem. Switching back to 71.89 fixes the problem.
But, the culprit may actually be 77.xx drivers and Sun Java as somebody
pointed out. I uninistalled the Sun Java and found an version of MS Java
floating around and installed it. That seems to have helped others.
So far so good here.

"Beowulf" > wrote in message
...
> edde wrote:
>> I've been running a Leadtek 6600GT PCIE on an Asus A8N-SLI board for 6
>> months or more, and it's been flawless (100% stock speeds).
>> When the last Nvidia WHQL 77.xx driver set came out, I upgraded from
>> 71.89.
>> I noticed random crashes when playing wmv video files, and GTA San
>> Andreas would often crash during the video cut scenes.
>> So, I went back to the 71.89's, and all has been fine.
>> I just upgraded again to Nvidia's new 77.77 drives, and sure enough
>> within the first day I got a corrupted desktop when playing a realvideo
>> file (had to restart computer), and now again today when playing a wmv
>> file in media player. Going back to 71.89 or earlier fixes all problems.
>> I guess WHQL doesn't mean a whole lot. The 77.xx drivers definately break
>> something with the video overlay with atleast my 6600GT.
> Interesting. I'm using 77.72 on PNY G4 ti4800 with no problems.
> WinXpsp2
> Slackware Linux 10.1 (76.76)
>
> DVD, DiVx, QT, wmv, etc all play fine. Games are ok, even older ones.
>
> You should poke around and make sure various old driver components are not
> still hanging around. Also, directx could be the problem. it never did
> "play nice" with non-windows drivers and opengl. You may also need to
> update you chipset drivers as well

Neil J Bundy
August 15th 05, 02:19 PM
Don't know if it will help anyone but with Athlon XP3200+, 6600GT on
AG-Neovo F-419 TFT display, I found 77.xx drivers "broke" the displaying
of video files when using everything except Quicktime player.

I looked and tweaked a few things. No joy. Then I found that it was
because video was defaulting to a full screen device so would not
display in the Media player or PowerDVD window, as it was being
channelled to the Analogue output to my F-419 monitor for some reason (I
use the digital output for the desktop, it is set in clone mode).

When I realised the video was being displayed on the other output I
could see it only if I switched the monitor input - not fantastic...

The solution was to disable full screen device in the nVidia Display
control panel, all video works fine as it should now, and I can click in
and out of full screen as required (or connect a TV) as necessary.

What puzzled me is that it was installing the 77.xx drivers that enabled
the full screen device... the driver actually works fine for me.

I'm not sure re: some of the other problems people have experienced, it
may be worth checking codecs, etc. - also Media Player Classic is quite
a good bit of software - functional not gimmicky.

Hope this helps - if not then nothing lost.

Neil.

In message >, edde
> writes
>Thanks for the reply.
>No that isn't it. I have the latest nforce 4 chipset drivers, 6.66, and all
>the latest drivers for other components. All games play fine, it's a video
>related problem with the newer 77.xx drivers. As i posted above, others have
>noted the same problem. Switching back to 71.89 fixes the problem.
>But, the culprit may actually be 77.xx drivers and Sun Java as somebody
>pointed out. I uninistalled the Sun Java and found an version of MS Java
>floating around and installed it. That seems to have helped others.
>So far so good here.
>
>"Beowulf" > wrote in message
...
>> edde wrote:
>>> I've been running a Leadtek 6600GT PCIE on an Asus A8N-SLI board for 6
>>> months or more, and it's been flawless (100% stock speeds).
>>> When the last Nvidia WHQL 77.xx driver set came out, I upgraded from
>>> 71.89.
>>> I noticed random crashes when playing wmv video files, and GTA San
>>> Andreas would often crash during the video cut scenes.
>>> So, I went back to the 71.89's, and all has been fine.
>>> I just upgraded again to Nvidia's new 77.77 drives, and sure enough
>>> within the first day I got a corrupted desktop when playing a realvideo
>>> file (had to restart computer), and now again today when playing a wmv
>>> file in media player. Going back to 71.89 or earlier fixes all problems.
>>> I guess WHQL doesn't mean a whole lot. The 77.xx drivers definately break
>>> something with the video overlay with atleast my 6600GT.
>> Interesting. I'm using 77.72 on PNY G4 ti4800 with no problems.
>> WinXpsp2
>> Slackware Linux 10.1 (76.76)
>>
>> DVD, DiVx, QT, wmv, etc all play fine. Games are ok, even older ones.
>>
>> You should poke around and make sure various old driver components are not
>> still hanging around. Also, directx could be the problem. it never did
>> "play nice" with non-windows drivers and opengl. You may also need to
>> update you chipset drivers as well
>
>

--
Neil J Bundy

edde
August 15th 05, 11:43 PM
Well, I was playing a video again today and sure enough after a while the
computer froze.
Back to 71.89, and everything is fine. I talked to a friend with a similar
setup and sure enough, 77.xx drivers do the same thing.
Neil, I looked everywhere in the Nvidia Control Panel for "disable full
screen device" and can't find it anywhere.

"Neil J Bundy" > wrote in message
...
> Don't know if it will help anyone but with Athlon XP3200+, 6600GT on
> AG-Neovo F-419 TFT display, I found 77.xx drivers "broke" the displaying
> of video files when using everything except Quicktime player.
>
> I looked and tweaked a few things. No joy. Then I found that it was
> because video was defaulting to a full screen device so would not display
> in the Media player or PowerDVD window, as it was being channelled to the
> Analogue output to my F-419 monitor for some reason (I use the digital
> output for the desktop, it is set in clone mode).
>
> When I realised the video was being displayed on the other output I could
> see it only if I switched the monitor input - not fantastic...
>
> The solution was to disable full screen device in the nVidia Display
> control panel, all video works fine as it should now, and I can click in
> and out of full screen as required (or connect a TV) as necessary.
>
> What puzzled me is that it was installing the 77.xx drivers that enabled
> the full screen device... the driver actually works fine for me.
>
> I'm not sure re: some of the other problems people have experienced, it
> may be worth checking codecs, etc. - also Media Player Classic is quite a
> good bit of software - functional not gimmicky.
>
> Hope this helps - if not then nothing lost.
>
> Neil.
>
> In message >, edde
> > writes
>>Thanks for the reply.
>>No that isn't it. I have the latest nforce 4 chipset drivers, 6.66, and
>>all
>>the latest drivers for other components. All games play fine, it's a video
>>related problem with the newer 77.xx drivers. As i posted above, others
>>have
>>noted the same problem. Switching back to 71.89 fixes the problem.
>>But, the culprit may actually be 77.xx drivers and Sun Java as somebody
>>pointed out. I uninistalled the Sun Java and found an version of MS Java
>>floating around and installed it. That seems to have helped others.
>>So far so good here.
>>
>>"Beowulf" > wrote in message
...
>>> edde wrote:
>>>> I've been running a Leadtek 6600GT PCIE on an Asus A8N-SLI board for 6
>>>> months or more, and it's been flawless (100% stock speeds).
>>>> When the last Nvidia WHQL 77.xx driver set came out, I upgraded from
>>>> 71.89.
>>>> I noticed random crashes when playing wmv video files, and GTA San
>>>> Andreas would often crash during the video cut scenes.
>>>> So, I went back to the 71.89's, and all has been fine.
>>>> I just upgraded again to Nvidia's new 77.77 drives, and sure enough
>>>> within the first day I got a corrupted desktop when playing a realvideo
>>>> file (had to restart computer), and now again today when playing a wmv
>>>> file in media player. Going back to 71.89 or earlier fixes all
>>>> problems.
>>>> I guess WHQL doesn't mean a whole lot. The 77.xx drivers definately
>>>> break
>>>> something with the video overlay with atleast my 6600GT.
>>> Interesting. I'm using 77.72 on PNY G4 ti4800 with no problems.
>>> WinXpsp2
>>> Slackware Linux 10.1 (76.76)
>>>
>>> DVD, DiVx, QT, wmv, etc all play fine. Games are ok, even older ones.
>>>
>>> You should poke around and make sure various old driver components are
>>> not
>>> still hanging around. Also, directx could be the problem. it never did
>>> "play nice" with non-windows drivers and opengl. You may also need to
>>> update you chipset drivers as well
>>
>>
>
> --
> Neil J Bundy

edde
August 15th 05, 11:51 PM
More info. I just discovered in my Event Viewer and NV Infinite Loop error.
And that reminds me, I had that same error with the last set of 77.xx
drivers too.
The 71.89 and older drivers were 100% flawless for 6 months before these
77.xx drivers.

"edde" > wrote in message
...
> Well, I was playing a video again today and sure enough after a while the
> computer froze.
> Back to 71.89, and everything is fine. I talked to a friend with a similar
> setup and sure enough, 77.xx drivers do the same thing.
> Neil, I looked everywhere in the Nvidia Control Panel for "disable full
> screen device" and can't find it anywhere.
>
> "Neil J Bundy" > wrote in message
> ...
>> Don't know if it will help anyone but with Athlon XP3200+, 6600GT on
>> AG-Neovo F-419 TFT display, I found 77.xx drivers "broke" the displaying
>> of video files when using everything except Quicktime player.
>>
>> I looked and tweaked a few things. No joy. Then I found that it was
>> because video was defaulting to a full screen device so would not display
>> in the Media player or PowerDVD window, as it was being channelled to the
>> Analogue output to my F-419 monitor for some reason (I use the digital
>> output for the desktop, it is set in clone mode).
>>
>> When I realised the video was being displayed on the other output I could
>> see it only if I switched the monitor input - not fantastic...
>>
>> The solution was to disable full screen device in the nVidia Display
>> control panel, all video works fine as it should now, and I can click in
>> and out of full screen as required (or connect a TV) as necessary.
>>
>> What puzzled me is that it was installing the 77.xx drivers that enabled
>> the full screen device... the driver actually works fine for me.
>>
>> I'm not sure re: some of the other problems people have experienced, it
>> may be worth checking codecs, etc. - also Media Player Classic is quite a
>> good bit of software - functional not gimmicky.
>>
>> Hope this helps - if not then nothing lost.
>>
>> Neil.
>>
>> In message >, edde
>> > writes
>>>Thanks for the reply.
>>>No that isn't it. I have the latest nforce 4 chipset drivers, 6.66, and
>>>all
>>>the latest drivers for other components. All games play fine, it's a
>>>video
>>>related problem with the newer 77.xx drivers. As i posted above, others
>>>have
>>>noted the same problem. Switching back to 71.89 fixes the problem.
>>>But, the culprit may actually be 77.xx drivers and Sun Java as somebody
>>>pointed out. I uninistalled the Sun Java and found an version of MS Java
>>>floating around and installed it. That seems to have helped others.
>>>So far so good here.
>>>
>>>"Beowulf" > wrote in message
...
>>>> edde wrote:
>>>>> I've been running a Leadtek 6600GT PCIE on an Asus A8N-SLI board for 6
>>>>> months or more, and it's been flawless (100% stock speeds).
>>>>> When the last Nvidia WHQL 77.xx driver set came out, I upgraded from
>>>>> 71.89.
>>>>> I noticed random crashes when playing wmv video files, and GTA San
>>>>> Andreas would often crash during the video cut scenes.
>>>>> So, I went back to the 71.89's, and all has been fine.
>>>>> I just upgraded again to Nvidia's new 77.77 drives, and sure enough
>>>>> within the first day I got a corrupted desktop when playing a
>>>>> realvideo
>>>>> file (had to restart computer), and now again today when playing a wmv
>>>>> file in media player. Going back to 71.89 or earlier fixes all
>>>>> problems.
>>>>> I guess WHQL doesn't mean a whole lot. The 77.xx drivers definately
>>>>> break
>>>>> something with the video overlay with atleast my 6600GT.
>>>> Interesting. I'm using 77.72 on PNY G4 ti4800 with no problems.
>>>> WinXpsp2
>>>> Slackware Linux 10.1 (76.76)
>>>>
>>>> DVD, DiVx, QT, wmv, etc all play fine. Games are ok, even older ones.
>>>>
>>>> You should poke around and make sure various old driver components are
>>>> not
>>>> still hanging around. Also, directx could be the problem. it never
>>>> did
>>>> "play nice" with non-windows drivers and opengl. You may also need to
>>>> update you chipset drivers as well
>>>
>>>
>>
>> --
>> Neil J Bundy
>
>

August 16th 05, 03:01 PM
Playing painkiller after upgrading to the 77.xx drivers from the older
71.xx series that came with my Chaintech 6600GT on CD resulted in
painkiller locking up once. It worked after I rebooted. CNTL ALT DEL
didn't respond. A8N-SLI-P 1006.

edde
August 16th 05, 07:02 PM
Curious, did the lockup occur during a video sequence in the game?
Check your event viewer. See if there is any message for a NV4 Infinite Loop
Error.
That is what I get if I have a few mpgs open at the same time for a few
minutes.
71.xx fix this completely.
I just got a new 535w Enermax PSU and I'm goint to do a fresh install of XP.
If it still occurs it's definately a driver issue. I do know the 77.xx
change something with the video overlay setup.
Btw, I have an A8N-SLI (Deluxe) board too.
Funny since we both have Nvidia chipsets on our mobos.

> wrote in message
oups.com...
> Playing painkiller after upgrading to the 77.xx drivers from the older
> 71.xx series that came with my Chaintech 6600GT on CD resulted in
> painkiller locking up once. It worked after I rebooted. CNTL ALT DEL
> didn't respond. A8N-SLI-P 1006.
>

edde
August 18th 05, 04:27 PM
Well, I just tried with a new 7800 GT, and the same thing happens.
Sun Java initializes something when it opens that corrupts the overlay.
Try this...
Open 2 or more videos in media player, then go into control panel and open
the Java console.
The display goes totally screwy.
I'm uninstalling SUN and going back to the old MS Java. It doesn't cause the
same problems.

> wrote in message
oups.com...
> Playing painkiller after upgrading to the 77.xx drivers from the older
> 71.xx series that came with my Chaintech 6600GT on CD resulted in
> painkiller locking up once. It worked after I rebooted. CNTL ALT DEL
> didn't respond. A8N-SLI-P 1006.
>

Ed Light
August 18th 05, 08:54 PM
I tried opening 2 videos in WM Player 10. The 2nd replaced the 1st, of
course. While it was playing I opened the java console. The sound continued
but the picture went blank. ZoneAlarm came up to see if java should go on
the net. I let it to check for an update and the picture came back.

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6600GT
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edde
August 19th 05, 03:58 AM
Hmmm, so I wonder who is to blame? Sun or Nvidia?
I always used to notice the screen "flicker" when ever the Java console was
opened, or a java applet was initialized, ever since Sun Java 1.42 or
something, even with a 5900, 6600gt, and 7800 gt.. But then again, it never
used to cause total overlay corruption until the 77.xx drivers.
Nvidia and Sun need to get together on this one.

"Ed Light" > wrote in message
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>I tried opening 2 videos in WM Player 10. The 2nd replaced the 1st, of
>course. While it was playing I opened the java console. The sound continued
>but the picture went blank. ZoneAlarm came up to see if java should go on
>the net. I let it to check for an update and the picture came back.
>
> 77.76
> 6600GT
> nforce3 ultra
> Winchester
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Dromiz
August 20th 05, 11:01 PM
> Interesting. I'm using 77.72 on PNY G4 ti4800 with no problems.
> WinXpsp2
> Slackware Linux 10.1 (76.76)
>
> DVD, DiVx, QT, wmv, etc all play fine. Games are ok, even older ones.
>
> You should poke around and make sure various old driver components are not
> still hanging around. Also, directx could be the problem. it never did
> "play nice" with non-windows drivers and opengl. You may also need to
> update you chipset drivers as well

Same problem game like everquest and guildwars crash with 77.77. These are
not old game and have the newest directx.

August 21st 05, 07:14 PM
I've had the same problem - 6600 GT, I think I've found a workaround. (
Works for me anyway )

I created a new "Application Profile" for the JAVA.exe and changed a
few settings for it.

My settings are :

Antialiasing settings - off
Antistropic filtering - off
Image settings - performance
Antistropic sample optimization - off
Triple buffering - off

I'm not sure which setting allowed the video overlay to function
correctly, but I no longer get video corruption when watching a video
while JAVA is being used by Azureus anymore.

Cheers.

edde
August 22nd 05, 01:24 AM
Wow! That may be genious! Way to go!
I'm going to give that a try! Thanks! (Is this enough exclamation marks?!)

> wrote in message
oups.com...
> I've had the same problem - 6600 GT, I think I've found a workaround. (
> Works for me anyway )
>
> I created a new "Application Profile" for the JAVA.exe and changed a
> few settings for it.
>
> My settings are :
>
> Antialiasing settings - off
> Antistropic filtering - off
> Image settings - performance
> Antistropic sample optimization - off
> Triple buffering - off
>
> I'm not sure which setting allowed the video overlay to function
> correctly, but I no longer get video corruption when watching a video
> while JAVA is being used by Azureus anymore.
>
> Cheers.
>

edde
August 23rd 05, 05:56 AM
Seems to work for me too. Thanks again!

> wrote in message
oups.com...
> I've had the same problem - 6600 GT, I think I've found a workaround. (
> Works for me anyway )
>
> I created a new "Application Profile" for the JAVA.exe and changed a
> few settings for it.
>
> My settings are :
>
> Antialiasing settings - off
> Antistropic filtering - off
> Image settings - performance
> Antistropic sample optimization - off
> Triple buffering - off
>
> I'm not sure which setting allowed the video overlay to function
> correctly, but I no longer get video corruption when watching a video
> while JAVA is being used by Azureus anymore.
>
> Cheers.
>

August 23rd 05, 08:55 AM
You're welcome, glad it helped :)

maxDK
August 24th 05, 07:38 AM
"rstacey1" wrote:
>Iíve had the same problem - 6600 GT, I think Iíve found a
>workaround. (
>Works for me anyway )
>
>I created a new "Application Profile" for the JAVA.exe and changed
a
>few settings for it.
>
>My settings are :
>
>Antialiasing settings - off
>Antistropic filtering - off
>Image settings - performance
>Antistropic sample optimization - off
>Triple buffering - off
>
>Iím not sure which setting allowed the video overlay to function
>correctly, but I no longer get video corruption when watching a video
>while JAVA is being used by Azureus anymore.
>
>Cheers.
Hmm..And now your GT6600 works with 77.xx ?
In my control panel I donít have a Java.exe..Should I install?

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edde
August 24th 05, 08:36 PM
"maxDK" > wrote in message
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> "rstacey1" wrote:
>>I've had the same problem - 6600 GT, I think I've found a
>>workaround. (
>>Works for me anyway )
>>
>>I created a new "Application Profile" for the JAVA.exe and changed
> a
>>few settings for it.
>>
>>My settings are :
>>
>>Antialiasing settings - off
>>Antistropic filtering - off
>>Image settings - performance
>>Antistropic sample optimization - off
>>Triple buffering - off
>>
>>I'm not sure which setting allowed the video overlay to function
>>correctly, but I no longer get video corruption when watching a video
>>while JAVA is being used by Azureus anymore.
>>
>>Cheers.
> Hmm..And now your GT6600 works with 77.xx ?
> In my control panel I don't have a Java.exe..Should I install?

Yes, you have to add a new profile. I also included javaw.exe and
javacpl.exe and javaws.exe in the profile to be safe.

Folk
August 30th 05, 10:49 PM
On Mon, 15 Aug 2005 05:15:06 -0500, "edde"
> wrote:

>But, the culprit may actually be 77.xx drivers and Sun Java as somebody
>pointed out. I uninistalled the Sun Java and found an version of MS Java
>floating around and installed it.

A good while back I tried to find an MS version of Java that would
work under XP but came up empty handed. Could you point me to where
you found yours?

Folk
August 30th 05, 11:20 PM
On 30 Aug 2005 16:49:16 -0500, Folk > wrote:

>On Mon, 15 Aug 2005 05:15:06 -0500, "edde"
> wrote:
>
>>But, the culprit may actually be 77.xx drivers and Sun Java as somebody
>>pointed out. I uninistalled the Sun Java and found an version of MS Java
>>floating around and installed it.
>
>A good while back I tried to find an MS version of Java that would
>work under XP but came up empty handed. Could you point me to where
>you found yours?

Never mind. I found a working download here:
http://www.abxair.com/software/downloads.htm

Folk
August 31st 05, 04:27 PM
On 30 Aug 2005 17:20:10 -0500, Folk > wrote:

>On 30 Aug 2005 16:49:16 -0500, Folk > wrote:
>
>>On Mon, 15 Aug 2005 05:15:06 -0500, "edde"
> wrote:
>>
>>>But, the culprit may actually be 77.xx drivers and Sun Java as somebody
>>>pointed out. I uninistalled the Sun Java and found an version of MS Java
>>>floating around and installed it.
>>
>>A good while back I tried to find an MS version of Java that would
>>work under XP but came up empty handed. Could you point me to where
>>you found yours?
>
>Never mind. I found a working download here:
>http://www.abxair.com/software/downloads.htm

But ended up reverting back to Sun java since the MS version didn't
work with all java apps (like the DSL Reports broadband speed test,
for example.)

Folk
September 1st 05, 09:09 PM
On Wed, 31 Aug 2005 23:14:58 -0500, "edde"
> wrote:

>"Folk" > wrote in message
...
>> On 30 Aug 2005 17:20:10 -0500, Folk > wrote:
>
>>>>
>>>>A good while back I tried to find an MS version of Java that would
>>>>work under XP but came up empty handed. Could you point me to where
>>>>you found yours?
>>>
>>>Never mind. I found a working download here:
>>>http://www.abxair.com/software/downloads.htm
>>
>> But ended up reverting back to Sun java since the MS version didn't
>> work with all java apps (like the DSL Reports broadband speed test,
>> for example.)
>
>Yes, that is why I had to go back to Sun. But adding a java profile in the
>nvidia control panel fixes everything!

Whenever I install new Nvidia drivers, I kill off the two or three new
background tasks it adds at bootup and also kill of the Nvidia Driver
Helper service. I've got a suspicion that I probably need some of
that stuff in order for the profile thingy to work. Could you verify?

edde
September 2nd 05, 07:23 AM
"Folk" > wrote in message
...
> On Wed, 31 Aug 2005 23:14:58 -0500, "edde"
> > wrote:
>
>>"Folk" > wrote in message
...
>>> On 30 Aug 2005 17:20:10 -0500, Folk > wrote:

> Whenever I install new Nvidia drivers, I kill off the two or three new
> background tasks it adds at bootup and also kill of the Nvidia Driver
> Helper service. I've got a suspicion that I probably need some of
> that stuff in order for the profile thingy to work. Could you verify?

I do the same. I remove the NVmedia centre thingy from startup, and I kill
the helper service too.
I've never used them for years, and not a single problem. In fact, disabling
the nvidia helper service is supposed to help things. Neither are needed for
the profile to work. One way I know a custom java profile works (beside it
not crashing videos) is that normally when I open the java control panel, or
a java app, the screen blinks for a second. Now with AA and AF turned off,
that doesn't happen. Oh, and now with the 7800GT, the fan used to spin up to
high speed 3d mode without the custom java profiles. Now it doesn't.
Nvidia and Sun need to do something about this. I'm not sure who is more to
blame.

Here is some good info on profiles:
http://www.nvidia.com/object/profiles.html

Folk
September 5th 05, 04:19 AM
On Fri, 2 Sep 2005 01:23:13 -0500, "edde" >
wrote:

>"Folk" > wrote in message
...
>> On Wed, 31 Aug 2005 23:14:58 -0500, "edde"
>> > wrote:
>>
>>>"Folk" > wrote in message
...
>>>> On 30 Aug 2005 17:20:10 -0500, Folk > wrote:
>
>> Whenever I install new Nvidia drivers, I kill off the two or three new
>> background tasks it adds at bootup and also kill of the Nvidia Driver
>> Helper service. I've got a suspicion that I probably need some of
>> that stuff in order for the profile thingy to work. Could you verify?
>
>I do the same. I remove the NVmedia centre thingy from startup, and I kill
>the helper service too.
>I've never used them for years, and not a single problem. In fact, disabling
>the nvidia helper service is supposed to help things. Neither are needed for
>the profile to work. One way I know a custom java profile works (beside it
>not crashing videos) is that normally when I open the java control panel, or
>a java app, the screen blinks for a second. Now with AA and AF turned off,
>that doesn't happen. Oh, and now with the 7800GT, the fan used to spin up to
>high speed 3d mode without the custom java profiles. Now it doesn't.
>Nvidia and Sun need to do something about this. I'm not sure who is more to
>blame.
>
>Here is some good info on profiles:
>http://www.nvidia.com/object/profiles.html

Thanks for the info edde!

maxDK
September 5th 05, 07:41 PM
"Folk" wrote:
>On Mon, 15 Aug 2005 05:15:06 -0500, "edde"
> wrote:
>
>>But, the culprit may actually be 77.xx drivers and Sun Java as
>somebody
>>pointed out. I uninistalled the Sun Java and found an version of
>MS Java
>>floating around and installed it.
>
>A good while back I tried to find an MS version of Java that would
>work under XP but came up empty handed. Could you point me to where
>you found yours?

http://java-virtual-machine.net/download.html

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